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Merged: 14 Cuts by Tuesday????.....Who?

bigfish#99 said:
mcdougle
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hes not goin anywhere he is not doin good but he is to cheap and too talented to just cut
 
RAS25 said:
and too talented to just cut
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no, apparently, he's not. he was demoted to second string, and when he did come in, he caused penalties. Thank god Saban only signed him for one year
 
Dudeman said:
no, apparently, he's not. he was demoted to second string, and when he did come in, he caused penalties. Thank god Saban only signed him for one year
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dosent mean hes not talented he was ok for the first couple of games maybe he is just frustrated right now i dont know but to say the man isnt talented is wrong
 
McDougle isn't going anywhere. It was interesting when Saban pulled Carey in the 2nd quarter and put McDougle back in at RT, with the rest of the starting OL intact including McIntosh at LT. Carey returned briefly in the 3rd quarter.

McDougle had plenty of decent plays but again he whiffed on one quick outside burst and was forced to hold, very obviously, to protect the QB.

This game should cement that McIntosh is the LT. He is so much more natural there than Carey it's a farce. McIntosh has better feet and sets up well with the proper positioning. Superior athletes may beat him but technique will not. Admittedly I got too sour on McIntosh based on last season, when he probably shouldn't have played at all after the ankle surgery and the shape he was in coming off of it.
 
Awsi Dooger said:
McDougle isn't going anywhere. It was interesting when Saban pulled Carey in the 2nd quarter and put McDougle back in at RT, with the rest of the starting OL intact including McIntosh at LT. Carey returned briefly in the 3rd quarter.

McDougle had plenty of decent plays but again he whiffed on one quick outside burst and was forced to hold, very obviously, to protect the QB.

This game should cement that McIntosh is the LT. He is so much more natural there than Carey it's a farce. McIntosh has better feet and sets up well with the proper positioning. Superior athletes may beat him but technique will not. Admittedly I got too sour on McIntosh based on last season, when he probably shouldn't have played at all after the ankle surgery and the shape he was in coming off of it.
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Good point. I liked DMAC in San Diego and thought maybe I was mistaken in my take on him. His ankle last season probably was the reason he didnt look that good. Agreed that Lee is the best blocking TE we have and there is a roster spot reserved for the best blocking TE. Question: I havent seen Alex holmes or Lorenzo Diamond block- Whats your take? Also how did Mckinney look tonight? And James if I aint being too much of a pain in the a@#
 
The team as I see it:

QB's (3)
7 Feeley, A.J. QB 6'03'' 217 05/16/1977 3 Oregon
11 Frerotte, Gus QB 6'03'' 225 07/3/1971 12 Tulsa
18 Rosenfels, Sage QB 6'04'' 218 03/6/1978 4 Iowa State

RB's (4)
23 Brown, Ronnie RB 6'01" 224 // 0 Auburn
28 Minor, Travis RB 5'10'' 205 06/30/1979 5 Florida State
31 Morris, Sammy RB 6'00'' 225 03/23/1977 6 Texas Tech
34 Williams, Ricky RB 5'10'' 228 05/21/1977 6 Texas

FB's (1)
44 Evans, Heath FB 6'00'' 249 12/30/1978 5 Auburn

WR's (6)
86 Booker, Marty WR 6'00'' 210 07/31/1976 7 Louisiana-Monroe
80 Boston, David WR 6'02'' 240 08/19/1978 6 Ohio State
84 Chambers, Chris WR 5'11'' 212 08/12/1978 5 Wisconsin
82 Gilmore, Bryan WR 6'00'' 196 09/21/1978 5 Midwestern State, Tx.
88 Thompson, Derrius WR 6'02'' 216 07/5/1977 6 Baylor
83 Welker, Wes WR 5'9" 190 03/1/1981 2 Texas Tech

TE's (3)
40 Diamond, Lorenzo TE 6'03'' 255 12/15/1978 2 Auburn
81 McMichael, Randy TE 6'03'' 245 06/28/1979 4 Georgia
89 Perry, Ed TE 6'04'' 270 09/1/1974 8 James Madison

OL (10)
67 Alabi, Anthony T 6'05" 310 // 0 Texas Christian
72 Carey, Vernon T 6'04" 335 07/13/1981 2 Miami
66 Hadnot, Rex G 6'2" 320 01/28/1982 2 Houston
78 James, Jeno G 6'03'' 310 01/12/1977 6 Auburn
73 McDougle, Stockar T 6'06'' 367 01/11/1977 6 Oklahoma
77 McIntosh, Damion T 6'04'' 325 03/25/1977 6 Kansas State
68 McKinney, Seth C 6'03'' 301 06/12/1979 4 Texas A&M
71 Middleton, Frank G 6'03'' 330 10/25/1974 9 Arizona
74 Smith, Wade T 6'04'' 296 04/26/1981 3 Memphis
70 St. Clair, John T 6'04'' 320 07/31/1978 4 Virginia

DE's (4)
96 Bowens, David DE 6'02'' 261 07/3/1977 7 Western Illinois
91 Holliday, Vonnie DE 6'05'' 290 12/11/1975 8 North Carolina
98 Roth, Matt DE 6'03" 272 // 0 Iowa
99 Taylor, Jason DE 6'06'' 260 09/1/1974 9 Akron

DT's (6)
93 Carter, Kevin DT 6'05'' 290 09/21/1973 11 Florida
64 Chester, Larry DT 6'02'' 310 10/17/1975 7 Temple
94 Traylor, Keith DT 6'02'' 340 09/3/1969 14 Central Oklahoma
92 Vickerson, Kevin DT 6'04" 295 // 0 Michigan State
75 Wright, Manuel DT 6'06" 329 // 0 Southern California
90 Zgonina, Jeff DT 6'02'' 300 05/24/1970 12 Purdue

LB's (6)
52 Crowder, Channing LB 6'02" 247 // 0 Florida
46 Glenn, Jason OLB 6'00'' 231 08/20/1979 5 Texas A&M
56 Pope, Derrick MLB 5'11" 233 05/4/1982 2 Alabama
55 Seau, Junior OLB 6'03'' 250 01/19/1969 16 Southern California
59 Spragan, Donnie OLB 6'04'' 239 07/12/1976 4 Stanford
54 Thomas, Zach MLB 5'11'' 235 09/1/1973 10 Texas Tech

DB's (8)
37 Bell, Yeremiah SS 5'11'' 195 03/3/1978 2 Eastern Kentucky
21 Daniels, Travis DB 6'02" 194 // 0 Louisiana State
20 Edwards, Mario CB 6'00'' 199 12/1/1975 6 Florida State
25 Howard, Reggie CB 6'00'' 190 05/17/1977 5 Memphis
24 Jones, Tebucky FS 6'02'' 218 10/6/1974 8 Syracuse
29 Madison, Sam CB 5'11'' 185 04/23/1974 9 Louisville
47 Schulters, Lance FS 6'01'' 205 05/27/1975 8 Hofstra
26 Tillman, Travares FS 6'01'' 190 10/8/1977 5 Georgia Tech

P/K (2)
5 Jones, Donnie P 6'3 225 07/5/1980 2 Louisiana State
10 Mare, Olindo K 5'10'' 195 06/6/1973 9 Syracuse

That's not a depth chart, just the players at each position, I believe will make the team. Mann may knock Thompson off, though I can't see Thompson outright cut.
 
adamprez2003 said:
Good point. I liked DMAC in San Diego and thought maybe I was mistaken in my take on him. His ankle last season probably was the reason he didnt look that good. Agreed that Lee is the best blocking TE we have and there is a roster spot reserved for the best blocking TE. Question: I havent seen Alex holmes or Lorenzo Diamond block- Whats your take? Also how did Mckinney look tonight? And James if I aint being too much of a pain in the a@#
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Frankly I was focusing on Hadnot tonight. I had kind of neglected to watch him play after play in previous games. Rex looked better than I expected, more light on his feet. There was one influence play he pulled to his left and thru a hole, not really finding anyone to block until he was about 10 yards downfield and actually ahead of the RB. That play really shocked me because I never knew Hadnot was anything but a limited space mauler.

I have not watched much of Alex Holmes so unfair to comment. Diamond is a willing blocker but too much finesse for my taste. He doesn't have Lee's mentality of outright burial, but few TEs do. Diamond also dropped one tonight from Feeley, kind of low but very catchable and it prevented a first down on 3rd and 2. The Finheaven wolves would have been out if that drop had been made by Lee.

Since I focused on Hadnot I saw plenty of McKinney alongside. IMO he's an average/slightly below average center who has good pass rush technique but not quick or strong enough to be effective as a run blocker, and not looking any different tonight than typical. The opponent tonight was lesser than Jacksonville or Pitt especially on the DL, so naturally the entire line looked better. James I didn't look at.

Since I drove north to Pompano Beach to watch the game because our power was still out in Miami, I didn't get to tape the game. I'm hoping it will be replayed this week to accomodate local fans who were without power, but I doubt it.
 
This round of cuts will be mostly the camp fodder. Doubtful that any big names or former starters will go. As bad as guys like Taylor Whitley may be, they are still usually better than the UDFA's teams use to fill their training camp roster.

Now, when they cut down to 53 players, thats when you'll see guys like Derrious Thompson or Taylor Whitley get cut.
 
The Franchise said:
The team as I see it:

QB's (3)
7 Feeley, A.J. QB 6'03'' 217 05/16/1977 3 Oregon
11 Frerotte, Gus QB 6'03'' 225 07/3/1971 12 Tulsa
18 Rosenfels, Sage QB 6'04'' 218 03/6/1978 4 Iowa State

RB's (4)
23 Brown, Ronnie RB 6'01" 224 // 0 Auburn
28 Minor, Travis RB 5'10'' 205 06/30/1979 5 Florida State
31 Morris, Sammy RB 6'00'' 225 03/23/1977 6 Texas Tech
34 Williams, Ricky RB 5'10'' 228 05/21/1977 6 Texas

FB's (1)
44 Evans, Heath FB 6'00'' 249 12/30/1978 5 Auburn

WR's (6)
86 Booker, Marty WR 6'00'' 210 07/31/1976 7 Louisiana-Monroe
80 Boston, David WR 6'02'' 240 08/19/1978 6 Ohio State
84 Chambers, Chris WR 5'11'' 212 08/12/1978 5 Wisconsin
82 Gilmore, Bryan WR 6'00'' 196 09/21/1978 5 Midwestern State, Tx.
88 Thompson, Derrius WR 6'02'' 216 07/5/1977 6 Baylor
83 Welker, Wes WR 5'9" 190 03/1/1981 2 Texas Tech

TE's (3)
40 Diamond, Lorenzo TE 6'03'' 255 12/15/1978 2 Auburn
81 McMichael, Randy TE 6'03'' 245 06/28/1979 4 Georgia
89 Perry, Ed TE 6'04'' 270 09/1/1974 8 James Madison

OL (10)
67 Alabi, Anthony T 6'05" 310 // 0 Texas Christian
72 Carey, Vernon T 6'04" 335 07/13/1981 2 Miami
66 Hadnot, Rex G 6'2" 320 01/28/1982 2 Houston
78 James, Jeno G 6'03'' 310 01/12/1977 6 Auburn
73 McDougle, Stockar T 6'06'' 367 01/11/1977 6 Oklahoma
77 McIntosh, Damion T 6'04'' 325 03/25/1977 6 Kansas State
68 McKinney, Seth C 6'03'' 301 06/12/1979 4 Texas A&M
71 Middleton, Frank G 6'03'' 330 10/25/1974 9 Arizona
74 Smith, Wade T 6'04'' 296 04/26/1981 3 Memphis
70 St. Clair, John T 6'04'' 320 07/31/1978 4 Virginia

DE's (4)
96 Bowens, David DE 6'02'' 261 07/3/1977 7 Western Illinois
91 Holliday, Vonnie DE 6'05'' 290 12/11/1975 8 North Carolina
98 Roth, Matt DE 6'03" 272 // 0 Iowa
99 Taylor, Jason DE 6'06'' 260 09/1/1974 9 Akron

DT's (6)
93 Carter, Kevin DT 6'05'' 290 09/21/1973 11 Florida
64 Chester, Larry DT 6'02'' 310 10/17/1975 7 Temple
94 Traylor, Keith DT 6'02'' 340 09/3/1969 14 Central Oklahoma
92 Vickerson, Kevin DT 6'04" 295 // 0 Michigan State
75 Wright, Manuel DT 6'06" 329 // 0 Southern California
90 Zgonina, Jeff DT 6'02'' 300 05/24/1970 12 Purdue

LB's (6)
52 Crowder, Channing LB 6'02" 247 // 0 Florida
46 Glenn, Jason OLB 6'00'' 231 08/20/1979 5 Texas A&M
56 Pope, Derrick MLB 5'11" 233 05/4/1982 2 Alabama
55 Seau, Junior OLB 6'03'' 250 01/19/1969 16 Southern California
59 Spragan, Donnie OLB 6'04'' 239 07/12/1976 4 Stanford
54 Thomas, Zach MLB 5'11'' 235 09/1/1973 10 Texas Tech

DB's (8)
37 Bell, Yeremiah SS 5'11'' 195 03/3/1978 2 Eastern Kentucky
21 Daniels, Travis DB 6'02" 194 // 0 Louisiana State
20 Edwards, Mario CB 6'00'' 199 12/1/1975 6 Florida State
25 Howard, Reggie CB 6'00'' 190 05/17/1977 5 Memphis
24 Jones, Tebucky FS 6'02'' 218 10/6/1974 8 Syracuse
29 Madison, Sam CB 5'11'' 185 04/23/1974 9 Louisville
47 Schulters, Lance FS 6'01'' 205 05/27/1975 8 Hofstra
26 Tillman, Travares FS 6'01'' 190 10/8/1977 5 Georgia Tech

P/K (2)
5 Jones, Donnie P 6'3 225 07/5/1980 2 Louisiana State
10 Mare, Olindo K 5'10'' 195 06/6/1973 9 Syracuse

That's not a depth chart, just the players at each position, I believe will make the team. Mann may knock Thompson off, though I can't see Thompson outright cut.
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Call me crazy, but I think you just EXACTLY named our final 53-man lineup. I'm skeptical about whether Turk or Jones will be our punter and whether it's going to be Lee or Diamond who makes it, but other than.... I think you just perfectly named our FINAL TEAM.
 
Awsi Dooger said:
Frankly I was focusing on Hadnot tonight. I had kind of neglected to watch him play after play in previous games. Rex looked better than I expected, more light on his feet. There was one influence play he pulled to his left and thru a hole, not really finding anyone to block until he was about 10 yards downfield and actually ahead of the RB. That play really shocked me because I never knew Hadnot was anything but a limited space mauler.

I have not watched much of Alex Holmes so unfair to comment. Diamond is a willing blocker but too much finesse for my taste. He doesn't have Lee's mentality of outright burial, but few TEs do. Diamond also dropped one tonight from Feeley, kind of low but very catchable and it prevented a first down on 3rd and 2. The Finheaven wolves would have been out if that drop had been made by Lee.

Since I focused on Hadnot I saw plenty of McKinney alongside. IMO he's an average/slightly below average center who has good pass rush technique but not quick or strong enough to be effective as a run blocker, and not looking any different tonight than typical. The opponent tonight was lesser than Jacksonville or Pitt especially on the DL, so naturally the entire line looked better. James I didn't look at.

Since I drove north to Pompano Beach to watch the game because our power was still out in Miami, I didn't get to tape the game. I'm hoping it will be replayed this week to accomodate local fans who were without power, but I doubt it.
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Thx for the feedback. I like Hadnot. I dont think he's proBowl but he 's the type you need to fill out a line. We need one or two studs but I think we have the filler, those two or three linemaen, that every team needs. Next year we go for the studs.
 
X-FACTOR said:
Your right I completely forgot about Moore. This was supposed to be the game where showed his worth to coach Saban and I can't recall seeing his name on the stats list. Now believe me I realize that stats don't tell the whole story; however, a man in his position better show flashes of above average ability on film or else it could be curtains.

Peace...................................................
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Wasn't it Moore that got the tackle of the QB behind the line of scrimmage? Not credited a sack, because the QB gave the appearance of running for it.
 
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