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SuperDuperFan said:
No, I don't think so, I think all the players # 2 and lower on the Depth chart are in trouble. Saban has always said his biggest concern was depth.
Merged: Brendon Ayanbadejo to Chicago for TE John Owens
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No, I don't think so, I think all the players # 2 and lower on the Depth chart are in trouble. Saban has always said his biggest concern was depth.
SuperDuperFan
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Good point, I agree with you. WHat linebackers (and how many) do you guys think we will end up keeping now?
Yeah I guess Saban and Co. have no idea what they're doing. But you do, so maybe you should send in your resume and see what happens:sleep: :sleep: :sleep:
Joneal7
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we got a conditional draft pick with this?
ckparrothead
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McMichael's performance against the Bucs showed me how important to this offensive line and running game it is to have a TE that can block.
To me, Brendan Ayanbadejo was not going to make this team no matter what, everyone knew it, and trading him for John Owens does not threaten Donald Lee's position, so much as if he shows us something incredible...he might even supplant Diamond, who really is a pedestrian blocker. My best guess is that Owens doesn't make the team. But, Ayanbadejo wasn't going to either, so at least we get to take a look at another TE as we try to find those guys that can catch and block (whereas Rader just catches a la Jed Weaver, and Holmes mostly blocks a la Hunter Goodwin).
To me, Brendan Ayanbadejo was not going to make this team no matter what, everyone knew it, and trading him for John Owens does not threaten Donald Lee's position, so much as if he shows us something incredible...he might even supplant Diamond, who really is a pedestrian blocker. My best guess is that Owens doesn't make the team. But, Ayanbadejo wasn't going to either, so at least we get to take a look at another TE as we try to find those guys that can catch and block (whereas Rader just catches a la Jed Weaver, and Holmes mostly blocks a la Hunter Goodwin).
ckparrothead said:
That's a good analysis, essentially a free look-see at a player who probably impressed our coaching staff with a play or two from the Hall of Fame game. Diamond has been getting more playing time with the first team and more balls thrown his way than Lee. I would be surprised if he is in jeopardy, although I agree with your assessment of his blocking.
I just checked out a Bears message board. They aren'y exactly crushed to lose Owens. Here is one post:
"1. Who the heck would want one of our TEs?
2. Since we're so lousy at TE in the first place, why are we trading any of them away?"
This might be one of those deals where if you cut the player you get (John Owens) before the season starts, you then get the conditional draft pick. So in other words, they take a look at John Owens in the game on thursday, and then decide if they want him or the pick.
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Awsi Dooger said:
Bob Davie sort of screwed Owens up not sticking him at one spot and leaving him there to develop. While at ND he played on defense for a few years at DE IIRC, he was a pretty good athlete and any improvement he has had would have had to take place in the NFL as he really didn't get good college coaching under Davie. One thing I would disagree with is that Owens was actually a pretty decent blocker at ND with a lot of strength, don't know if he was better than Lee but he wasn't a bad blocking TE which is what the ND tight ends have been lately before the Fasano kid developed the last few years.
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Dolfan81 said:
Obviously, the coaching staff has different ideas or possibly, everyone else is looking for OL....
Besides, this shows that the staff is not too enamored with our TE situation after Randy McMike...I don't know much about Owens, but we'll see soon....
I have really mixed feelings about Lee...when he catches the ball and when is isn't causing penalties, he's got a lot of the tools of a quality TE...but he just causes too many problems....
MiamiFan1354
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Dolfan81 said:
Isn't a TE kinda considered an O-Linemam? Maybe this guy can block real well, and still catch the ball
Samphin
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SuperDuperFan said:
To my best guess, we will be keeping about six linebackers. Taylor and Bowens will be spending some time as a linebacker so they will essentially take some spots from the "true" linebackers.
Personally, right now, I see it as:
Thomas, Seau, Spragan, Crowder, Glenn, Pope, Moore, Jenkins, Taylor
I think Moore, Jenkins and Taylor are definately on the bubble. I think Glenn has played his way on and the top four are locks.
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I'm sure they took a close look at him in that opening game. He was in on the short yardage play when the Bears scored there first TD. He didn't log any serious playing time until the 4th quarter.Awsi Dooger said:
The first thing you notice is that he has a serious low stance for someone of his size. He easily under-cut Carter on that goal line play...even though he was late on the snap count.
At about the 8 minute mark in the 4th quarter, he made a really nice block on Jason Glenn on a run play. He didn't show great hands...he also dropped a pass. He did well in pass blocking on both sides and snaps out of his stance very well.
Looks like a solid short yardage blocking TE and he held is own as a pass blocker.