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MERGED: Chris Borland Retiring!

hooshoops said:
Get over the numbers i watched plenty of games...he was limited and limiting in that defense...and he missed tackles a legit mike should make diving at lower legs or getting run over
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Graded #4 linebacker in the NFL by PFF.

It's not just #s, there's substance.
 
The NFL is in trouble...

If I were rich I'd purchase an MLS team now while the costs are low. In 20 years, I predict that the NFL will be a shadow of itself and MLS will be an ascendant sports league due to the influx of homegrown talent.

More and more parents will begin steering their children into other sports and the sport that stands to benefit most is soccer because A.) it is a (reasonably) non-contact sport B.) it pays huge money for players overseas C.) many of the skills positions most affected by concussions in the NFL (receivers/corners/LBs) have athletic skills that are suited to the sport of soccer.

More and more kids are also getting into watching EPL, etc. due to the rise of internet streaming options.

The NFL will try to make more rules and safety changes to stem the tide, but I don't think it will work. Now that players are informed about the dangers, they are leaving significant money on the table to leave. This will have a trickle down effect wherein younger players will see better financial opportunities (with less health risks) in other sports such as basketball, baseball and soccer.
 
xXwarXx said:
Graded #4 linebacker in the NFL by PFF.

It's not just #s, there's substance.
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**** pff

Im not arguing he wasn't productive and would have been an upgrade for us at mike...he would have been...his instincts are very good...but i know i watched games last year and multiples where he was one on one in space vs backs etc where he has to make the tackle and he didnt...put himself in good enough position where he should and didnt and if you watched enough college tape he missed tackles too there diving from poor angles or not running thru the target etc...leaving his feet when he didnt need to i call it ankle biting as hes trying to grab your lower leg and trip you up...or just falling right down the lower legs and being shed

And also some limitations in coverage given the size and the athlete

Anyways to each his own...i dont know how anyone could say there was upside there given those physical limitations were not something he could ever change...
 
Some guys were happy to spend a second on Chris last year - guess it is a good thing we passed
 
hooshoops said:
**** pff

Im not arguing he wasn't productive and would have been an upgrade for us at mike...he would have been...his instincts are very good...but i know i watched games last year and multiples where he was one on one in space vs backs etc where he has to make the tackle and he didnt...put himself in good enough position where he should and didnt and if you watched enough college tape he missed tackles too there diving from poor angles or not running thru the target etc...leaving his feet when he didnt need to i call it ankle biting as hes trying to grab your lower leg and trip you up...or just falling right down the lower legs and being shed

And also some limitations in coverage given the size and the athlete

Anyways to each his own...i dont know how anyone could say there was upside there given those physical limitations were not something he could ever change...
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You better clean your loupe and put the ****ing tape back on.

Chris Borland was a ****ing beast out there last year. The same bull**** you are spewing in this thread is the kind of nonsense people tried to say about Zach Thomas.

The dude stepped in for Patrick Willis and increased the production the 9ers had at the position. Willis was on his way to the HOF if had not retired and might be getting in anyway.

GET REAL! Borland was a machine out there. The guy was making plays all over the field. Tackles and turnovers galore.
 
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Tre Mason getting his ankles bitten.
 
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SkapePhin said:
The NFL is in trouble...

If I were rich I'd purchase an MLS team now while the costs are low. In 20 years, I predict that the NFL will be a shadow of itself and MLS will be an ascendant sports league due to the influx of homegrown talent.

More and more parents will begin steering their children into other sports and the sport that stands to benefit most is soccer because A.) it is a (reasonably) non-contact sport B.) it pays huge money for players overseas C.) many of the skills positions most affected by concussions in the NFL (receivers/corners/LBs) have athletic skills that are suited to the sport of soccer.

More and more kids are also getting into watching EPL, etc. due to the rise of internet streaming options.

The NFL will try to make more rules and safety changes to stem the tide, but I don't think it will work. Now that players are informed about the dangers, they are leaving significant money on the table to leave. This will have a trickle down effect wherein younger players will see better financial opportunities (with less health risks) in other sports such as basketball, baseball and soccer.
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I hear what you're saying. However I think that the NFL's popularity will only die IF they implement more rules to try and "protect" players. As it is, with the rules as they are now: if a Chris Borland retires there are literally 1000 people waiting to fill his shoes. The NFL is extremely popular, and profitable. It is also a violent game, and I don't think rule changes will stop that. I've heard sports talk guys saying crazy things like " the NFL should have a concussion maximum, where after so many concussions the player would be forced to retire. " This is laughable. What players' union would ever want the NFL to control their future earnings?? They'd never sign off on that!

Sad to say but society is only getting more violent, and not less. There will always be men who will sign up for these sports.
 
I would find out who the Niners like at LB and draft them. They can really pick em lol
 
SoCal Finatic said:
Don't see your point.
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I too believe that the reports of the NFL's death have been greatly exaggerated, but the sentence I previously quoted is just not accurate. Neither historically or based on analysis of recent trends.

Yes, thousands of people have died in bloody unrest from Africa to Pakistan, while terrorists plot bombings and kidnappings. Wars drag on in Iraq and Afghanistan. In peaceful Norway, a man massacred 69 youths in July. In Mexico, headless bodies turn up, victims of drug cartels. This month eight people died in a shooting in a California hair salon.

Yet, historically, we've never had it this peaceful.

That's the thesis of three new books, including one by prominent Harvard psychologist Steven Pinker. Statistics reveal dramatic reductions in war deaths, family violence, racism, rape, murder and all sorts of mayhem.

In his book, Pinker writes: "The decline of violence may be the most significant and least appreciated development in the history of our species."

And it runs counter to what the mass media is reporting and essentially what we feel in our guts.

Pinker and other experts say the reality is not painted in bloody anecdotes, but demonstrated in the black and white of spreadsheets and historical documents. They tell a story of a world moving away from violence.

The number of people killed in battle – calculated per 100,000 population – has dropped by 1,000-fold over the centuries as civilizations evolved. Before there were organized countries, battles killed on average more than 500 out of every 100,000 people. In 19th century France, it was 70. In the 20th century with two world wars and a few genocides, it was 60. Now battlefield deaths are down to three-tenths of a person per 100,000.

The rate of genocide deaths per world population was 1,400 times higher in 1942 than in 2008.

There were fewer than 20 democracies in 1946. Now there are close to 100. Meanwhile, the number of authoritarian countries has dropped from a high of almost 90 in 1976 to about 25 now.

Murder in European countries has steadily fallen from near 100 per 100,000 people in the 14th and 15th centuries to about 1 per 100,000 people now.

Rape in the United States is down 80 percent since 1973. Lynchings, which used to occur at a rate of 150 a year, have disappeared.

Discrimination against blacks and gays is down, as is capital punishment, the spanking of children, and child abuse.
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/22/world-less-violent-stats_n_1026723.html

The problem with anecdotes about single events is that they obscure long-term trends. Breivik and his ilk make front-page news for the very reason that they are now unusual. It was not always so.

Take homicide. Using old court and county records in England, scholars calculate that rates have plummeted by a factor of 10, 50 and, in some cases, 100—for example, from 110 homicides per 100,000 people per year in 14th-century Oxford to fewer than one homicide per 100,000 in mid-20th-century London. Similar patterns have been documented in Italy, Germany, Switzerland, the Netherlands and Scandinavia. The longer-term trend is even more dramatic, Pinker told me in an interview: “Violent deaths of all kinds have declined, from around 500 per 100,000 people per year in prestate societies to around 50 in the Middle Ages, to around six to eight today worldwide, and fewer than one in most of Europe.” What about gun-toting Americans and our inordinate rate of homicides (currently around five per 100,000 per year) compared with other Western democracies? In 2005, Pinker computes, just eight tenths of 1 percent of all Americans died of domestic homicides and in two foreign wars combined.
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http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-decline-of-violence/
 
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