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Dol-Fan Dupree said:
all I know is reading these fun posts just increases your love for white people. You like to think that this would can get better and then you read some of the most ignorant posts.

This world could get a lot better if people quit trying to get everybody to just give them something instead of earning it. There minorities want to be coachs in the NFL start at the bottom and work your way up, if that is the only way you can get in. Dont just expect that just because there isnt a certain number of minority coachs that they DESERVE to have some. That is BS.
 
Philter25 said:
Although I agree that a lot of minorities keep the whole racial conversation on the table, a lot of white people are still very racist. It really depends on what part of the US you visit. Some are very very equal and on a level playing field, others its appalling to see how far behind the time some towns are.

Incidents and comments like this however do not help the minorities cause because it just puts a distaste in people's mouth's for organizations like the alliance.



Well, you're probably right. I live Detroit Michigan, and my whole life i have seen any racism play out. Whites treat blacks respect, and blacks treat whites with respect. I have never been down south where most of the racism occurs, so i can not comment on what its like down there.
 
Shamboubou said:
This world could get a lot better if people quit trying to get everybody to just give them something instead of earning it. There minorities want to be coachs in the NFL start at the bottom and work your way up, if that is the only way you can get in. Dont just expect that just because there isnt a certain number of minority coachs that they DESERVE to have some. That is BS.

no one is asking that. You are making something up.
 
I wonder if anyone else noticed this... but the most understanding and affirmatively minded people are from the north, and the most biased and anti-diversitied are from the south. The rednecks actually live with the black folks, while the yanks don't have a black dude within 10 miles of them.
 
TeeMoney said:
I wonder if anyone else noticed this... but the most understanding and affirmatively minded people are from the north, and the most biased and anti-diversitied are from the south. The rednecks actually live with the black folks, while the yanks don't have a black dude within 10 miles of them.
You have obviously never been to New York City or Philadephia.
 
Dol-Fan Dupree said:
no one is asking that. You are making something up.

What do you mean nobody is asking that!!! They are asking that every time an NFL team HAS to interview a coach of minority. What I think is funny is that if they did get some random hispanic off the steet and interviewed them for the coaching postion, the alliance would still have a fit.
 
maybe there is just more intelligence up north. Philly and New York, isn't that were all the killings and riots and stuff happens? Who's responsible for all of that nonsense?
 
Shamboubou said:
What do you mean nobody is asking that!!! They are asking that every time an NFL team HAS to interview a coach of minority. What I think is funny is that if they did get some random hispanic off the steet and interviewed them for the coaching postion, the alliance would still have a fit.

We should have interview Ricky Williams... we would have met their standards and yet smacked their standards in the face at the same time.
 
Shamboubou said:
What do you mean nobody is asking that!!! They are asking that every time an NFL team HAS to interview a coach of minority. What I think is funny is that if they did get some random hispanic off the steet and interviewed them for the coaching postion, the alliance would still have a fit.

hiring and interviewing are two different things.

You are said they want unqualified people to be hired. They are saying they want qualified people to get a shot. They are completely different.
 
TeeMoney said:
maybe there is just more intelligence up north. Philly and New York, isn't that were all the killings and riots and stuff happens? Who's responsible for all of that nonsense?

riots? you are thinking of good old white Seattle.
 
dcdolfan said:
I almost didnt read this thread because I knew I was going to get pissed at some of the ignorant and misleading statements. I was right. First of all, as an African American, I am quite pleased we hired Randy Mueller.
However, to all those people who say big business always hires the best person for the job STFU! Or explain to me Rich Kotite, Dennis Erickson, Dave Wannestadt! Not that Art Shell was the greatest coach (cuz he wasnt) however, if those clowns deserved another chance he sure as hell does.
Secondly, I agree with the posters who say it shouldnt be about race, but unfortunately racism persists and if people dont complain then change wont happen. Its really sad to see that some people on this board are using the same arguments that some of our Supreme Court justices used in upholding Plessy v. Ferguson. (Separate, but equal, for those who didnt pay attention in history class) (note: Plessy v. Ferguson was overturned for those who have no idea what I am talking about!)
I am inclined to agree with the posters, who say its all about money, not race. I believe its starting to move in that direction. I mean look at the OJ Simpson case, we all know he is guilty as hell! However, he was rich and he got off. John Hinkley shot the damn president and he gets to come home and visit. Why because his family is rich! If you or I shot the president we would be under the jail.
Finally, in response to some of the posters. As far as the poster who said he didnt get into the CA school even though his SAT grades were higher than some minorities. I am inclined to say that is BS! First, quotas are against the law! Second, just because your SAT is higher than someone's doesnt mean you are more qualified. Contrary to popular belief there are more factors involved in the admissions process than SAT's and race. To the poster who had the audacity to complain about BET! Why are you whining? Every channel since TV has been a popular medium has been dedicated to the entertainment of our caucasion population. It has just been in the last 20-30 years you have even seen blacks on TV with any regularity. So please go back to the blog site where you got that bs statement from! Because that was not original thought on your behalf because i have read that before too.
Also, the diversity group is obviously an African-American advocacy group, so of course they arent going to be going to bat for Gays, women, or hispanics. I mean do Right wing Conservative groups go to bat for the Log Cabin Republicans? Not really to answer your question, yet they are all Republicans. So don't wonder why the Diversity group or whatever they are called are not going to bat for other minorities!
Well this was way too long but hell I was bored! I personally just want to win! If the Grand Dragon of the Ku Klux Klan could get us a SB win, I would support him. :evil:



And I am inclined to say that you need to check your facts. First off, affirmative-action was a form of a quota, was it not? And that was not against the law. Second, obviously admission to a college is not based soley on an SAT score. And I know that having a better SAT score does not necessarily make you more qualified/smarter/etc.; however, this is one of the criteria for admission to a major university. My point was that minorities did not have to score as well on their SAT -- and that means that the standards for minorities were not as tough as they were for me, a white person. How could this ever be considered remotely fair?

This is no longer practiced in colleges throughout California, however. For years these lower standards were given to "minorities". Well, now that whites are officialy the minority in California, those benefits are gone. And why are they gone? Because it would be racist to lower standards for a white person -- even if they are now the minority.

Oh, and the point about BET was the fact that you will never see a television channel named White Entertainment Television -- because that would be racist!
 
Dol-Fan Dupree said:
people believe in god now. It has nothing to do with the forefathers. They did not put it in the pledge of alligence. There were forefathers that did not believe in god.


Yeah, but thank God they were the "MINORITY" :D
 
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