Jimi
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im kinda curious....if u draft a kicker #2 overall....do you pay him #2 money??lol
MERGED:exactly the reason NOT to take a rb at #2/The Ronnie Contract
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FanMarino said:
You don't need someone special. We achieved balance when we had Lamar Smith, who's hardly special. That's why so few SBs are won by the team with the NFL leading rusher.
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dolfreak said:
you said "NO SOURCE, VIVID IMAGINATION AND SOME CRACK" the fact is we did receive offers and the #7 and #49 was it...but that doesn't matter the point is i'm not posting from a cracked out imagination with no sources. see the herald article i referenced earlier.
as for our "desperate need" for a running back at #2, that is the exact point of this post and what i am disagreeing with. it doesn't matter,though, because what's done is done. i just felt like putting all our eggs in one basket with a franchise running back a few years ago should have taught us a lesson. now before you go off about how ronnie is not ricky, DUH. the point is that you must be able to run block or no one is rushing for anything. you guys all think that just because we got ronnie brown now, that we are going to be running up and down the field and that just isn't the case. that's why i think the money relative to the pick would have been better spent at another position.
as for the "best cb tandem in the league for 4+ years lol. madison's nickname should be toast after the past 2 years, and if surtain was really that good we would have reworked a long term deal instead of trading him. both of those guys made a living off of jason taylor (and ogunleye when he was here) getting pressure.
I feel the running game will be helped not only by ROnnie, Kay Jay, and Lamar...but by Linehan and Houck as well.Oh yeah....Let's put our #2 money on a FRANCHISE WR, yeah that sounds right. No, lets trade down to #7 almost a week after the draft, maybe we can get a steal in Carlos Rodgers...since we need another FRANCHISE CB. And at #49 lets get an O-Lineman....sweet!!
Jimi said:
Yes. Janikowski got a contract equivalent to his draft position when the Raiders took him early.
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rafael said:
of course you can achieve balance with a mediocre RB just like you can with a mediocre QB... point is though its better to have great players at tohse positions then just average players... both are important, tihs arguement is ******ed...
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dolfreak said:
you might have had a point until that second paragraph - chambers, much as i love him, hasn't done anything to justify the reputation he has amongst fin fans yet.
edwards is a better player, period and, IMO, he was also the best player available when we picked at #2.
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thecoordinator said:
If our o-line don't block then a WR or QB wonuldn't be effective and their stats would not justify a big contract or second round pick. With that said. Ronnie brown was the best choice becasue he is so versitile. If the oline aint blocking then he can help with pass protection, he can catch screens to slow down the rush and he can also split out wide on a linebacker and give feeley or frerrote a quick option to throw to becasue he should be able to beat any linebacker off the ball. Any other pick at the #2 spot would not have given us all of these options. A QB would only sit the bench the entire year so he wouldn't help us and a WR cannot help with pass protection or inside blocking.
first of all Chambers was a 2nd rounder and secondly when have you ever seen a Deep ball thrown ahead of Chambers??? He always gets underthrown. The thing that people love about Edwards is his ability to jump for the ball. IMO Chambers is a top 3 in terms of jumping for the ball, he has a HUGE vertical. It just so happens that Chambers has never had someone to throw it to him. PLUS, Chambers has NEVER dropped a big catch in College or in the PROS(Dallas Game is a great example). edwards has questionable "Big Game" Hands....just look at the Ohio State Game, 3 drops......OUCH!!
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dolfreak said:
He has an excellent vertical leap but keeps his hands way too close to his body.
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thecoordinator said:
Why do you think wide receiver represents better value? What position affects the outcome of the game more? RB or WR?
IMO, that's an easy question to answer. A great RB will have a bigger impact upon the game than a great wide receiver. Take the two players who are arguably the best at those positions respectively, LaDainian Tomlinson and Terrell Owens. Which player do you feel would be more worth the 2nd pick? The WR who will give you 1,200 yards receiving and around 12 touchdowns, or the running back who will give you 2,400 yards of total offense and around 18 TDs?
When you come down to it, the true value positions are quarterback, offensive tackle, cornerback, and defensive line. Those are the positions that are, if you want to put a worth on a position, worth more in value than the other positions. You do pretty much whatever you can to fill those positions with the exception of reaching and making an incredibly stupid draft pick.
When you get down to the other positions, it is a matter of preference, IMO. I honestly can't see how anyone can think a wide receiver has more value than a running back though. A great running back will get his yards regardless. If he has an average offensive line, he will make that line look above average. A great wide receiver is totally dependent upon the quarterback though. If the QB can't get him the ball, then that great wide receiver is nothing more than an average player that won't affect the game much at all.
