Buddwalk said:There not the same thing...again read the threads :fire:
One explains the highschool deal and another the nba settling the lockout issue:D
They are both relating to the samething.
Just dont worry about.
Buddwalk said:There not the same thing...again read the threads :fire:
One explains the highschool deal and another the nba settling the lockout issue:D
It's a well-known fact that most of the players coming out of high school are black(sh-t, if not all). I can't remember the last successful white dude to go from high school ball to the NBA, sorry. White America just isn't ready for 18-year old rich black folks making the headlines. Yeah, that sounds blatant, but it is what it is & I never shy away from what's real. Some players just don't need the college experience. There are many guys who had teams waiting years on them to develop(Jermaine O'Neal in Portland is your prime example), but he came along with Indiana from all the leaning and exposure he had. LeBron James & Amare Stoudemire are the exceptions of players who go from high school to stardom within a year or two. But really, I honestly believe that if more white guys came straight from high school with success, this labor would've never been passed. Not only can you ask Jermaine O'Neal who said that nationally on ABC during the season, but you can ask Larry Bird as well. College slows down the development of certain types of players. Certain players get nothing out of college ball and are better off sitting on the bench for a year or two and learning the ropes. This rule is stupid because the players who were planning on coming straight out of high school will now just go to college for 1-year, with the ambition of just getting through that year and leaving a good impression on scouts. It's not like they're making the kids go & get a degree, so there's no difference to me.DonShula84 said:Giving these young black men a year of college experience is really taking a lot from them.
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2 Pistolz said:It's a well-known fact that most of the players coming out of high school are black(sh-t, if not all). I can't remember the last successful white dude to go from high school ball to the NBA, sorry. White America just isn't ready for 18-year old rich black folks making the headlines. Yeah, that sounds blatant, but it is what it is & I never shy away from what's real. Some players just don't need the college experience. There are many guys who had teams waiting years on them to develop(Jermaine O'Neal in Portland is your prime example), but he came along with Indiana from all the leaning and exposure he had. LeBron James & Amare Stoudemire are the exceptions of players who go from high school to stardom within a year or two. But really, I honestly believe that if more white guys came straight from high school with success, this labor would've never been passed. Not only can you ask Jermaine O'Neal who said that nationally on ABC during the season, but you can ask Larry Bird as well. College slows down the development of certain types of players. Certain players get nothing out of college ball and are better off sitting on the bench for a year or two and learning the ropes. This rule is stupid because the players who were planning on coming straight out of high school will now just go to college for 1-year, with the ambition of just getting through that year and leaving a good impression on scouts. It's not like they're making the kids go & get a degree, so there's no difference to me.
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That's complete crap! Perhaps it would GIVE them a college education. I think the rule should be made even older like football! Force kids to keep their grades up so they can get into college. Otherwise they blow off their education trying to make the NBA. If they don't make it, what do they fall back on??2 Pistolz said:Just another thing that takes away from young black men..
phunwin said:Unfortunately, most of these kids who are in a position to jump from high school to the NBA wrote off the concept of getting an education some time ago. That's partly their fault, and partly the fault of their schools (high and collegiate), who don't really give a damn if they get an education, and won't take the necessary steps to get them to focus on it (i.e. suspending kids for bad grades or coming up short with credits). So, the "get an education" argument doesn't work. Frankly, a lot of these high schools and colleges are just basketball factories, who use these kids for the time they can, and send them out into the world without the education they need. I'll point, as I always do, to the U of Cincinnati, which hasn't graduated a player since Oscar Robertson. The system needs fixing, but the kids don't really care and the schools don't care, so that's that. </rant>
phunwin said:But there's a lot to be said for getting some of these kids to see themselves for what they are. Far more high schoolers flop than turn into Kevin Garnett. A year at the college level, to really see what the strengths and weaknesses in their game are, will do wonders for them. Best recent example is Charlie Villanueva. Charlie badly wanted to jump from HS to the NBA, but everyone said, "Charlie, go to school, you're not going to be drafted." So he did. He spent two years at UConn and is now likely to go in the middle of round 1. I thought he should have spent a third year; he'd have been a lottery pick for sure if he came out next year, but I digress. A lot of these kids have real holes in their games when they jump right from high school, and for all but the ultra-talented few (LeBron, Amare, KG, T-Mac), it's a terrible move.
Now, I will note that the expansion of the D-League makes the age limit less important, because some of these kids are able to work out problems in their game at the NBDL level. And that's probably why the owners were willing to bend on the 20-year old limit.
2 Pistolz said:It's a well-known fact that most of the players coming out of high school are black(sh-t, if not all). I can't remember the last successful white dude to go from high school ball to the NBA, sorry. White America just isn't ready for 18-year old rich black folks making the headlines. Yeah, that sounds blatant, but it is what it is & I never shy away from what's real. Some players just don't need the college experience. There are many guys who had teams waiting years on them to develop(Jermaine O'Neal in Portland is your prime example), but he came along with Indiana from all the leaning and exposure he had. LeBron James & Amare Stoudemire are the exceptions of players who go from high school to stardom within a year or two. But really, I honestly believe that if more white guys came straight from high school with success, this labor would've never been passed. Not only can you ask Jermaine O'Neal who said that nationally on ABC during the season, but you can ask Larry Bird as well. College slows down the development of certain types of players. Certain players get nothing out of college ball and are better off sitting on the bench for a year or two and learning the ropes. This rule is stupid because the players who were planning on coming straight out of high school will now just go to college for 1-year, with the ambition of just getting through that year and leaving a good impression on scouts. It's not like they're making the kids go & get a degree, so there's no difference to me.
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2 Pistolz said:I swear, the "bright side" is the only thing America ever thinks of - that's why this country is so f-cked up(sorry, like I said...it is what it is).
2 Pistolz said:It's a well-known fact that most of the players coming out of high school are black(sh-t, if not all). I can't remember the last successful white dude to go from high school ball to the NBA, sorry. White America just isn't ready for 18-year old rich black folks making the headlines. Yeah, that sounds blatant, but it is what it is & I never shy away from what's real. Some players just don't need the college experience. There are many guys who had teams waiting years on them to develop(Jermaine O'Neal in Portland is your prime example), but he came along with Indiana from all the leaning and exposure he had. LeBron James & Amare Stoudemire are the exceptions of players who go from high school to stardom within a year or two. But really, I honestly believe that if more white guys came straight from high school with success, this labor would've never been passed. Not only can you ask Jermaine O'Neal who said that nationally on ABC during the season, but you can ask Larry Bird as well. College slows down the development of certain types of players. Certain players get nothing out of college ball and are better off sitting on the bench for a year or two and learning the ropes. This rule is stupid because the players who were planning on coming straight out of high school will now just go to college for 1-year, with the ambition of just getting through that year and leaving a good impression on scouts. It's not like they're making the kids go & get a degree, so there's no difference to me.
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RWhitney014 said:Robert Swift was drafted by the Sonics in the first round, I believe. An very few, if any, of the white Euros coming into the league went to high school. Still, your point is correct. This whole situation is a microcosm of what's wrong with American education today. When it's cool to do drugs and flash guns, there's something seriously wrong.