I would love to have V. Young, and I am changing my mind on his pro potential. I've seen him fit the ball into some tight spots and I've seen him make reads that I didn't think possible given the coaching he was getting at Texas. I tend to think he could be ready sooner rather than later.
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kastofsna120
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doesn't saban want GOOD players?
OC and Young issues
I guess we can say goodbye to a qb? young seems to be leaning twoards heading back to tex due to the teams available in teh draft and the top 5 dont need a qb even tho NO will pick leinart over young unless he pulls an eli. Other issue is he will still be 2nd next year behind quinn.
Another source said miami can have mike martz as a good candidate if linehan leaves. if thats the case i am retiring as a dolphin. marts runs teh ball 10 times TOPS a dam* game! we alreayd have issues wiht scotty in that department. wasn't it the SB game where warner went to pass 16 straight times w/out a running play?
I guess we can say goodbye to a qb? young seems to be leaning twoards heading back to tex due to the teams available in teh draft and the top 5 dont need a qb even tho NO will pick leinart over young unless he pulls an eli. Other issue is he will still be 2nd next year behind quinn.
Another source said miami can have mike martz as a good candidate if linehan leaves. if thats the case i am retiring as a dolphin. marts runs teh ball 10 times TOPS a dam* game! we alreayd have issues wiht scotty in that department. wasn't it the SB game where warner went to pass 16 straight times w/out a running play?
Alex44
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For all the things about Martz not running people seem to forget that Marshall Faulk had amazing seasons on the ground
And with Torry Holt, Isaac Bruce, Azahir Hakeem, Faulk catching passes, and Kurt Warner what plays would you call?
The man is an offensive Genious
And with Torry Holt, Isaac Bruce, Azahir Hakeem, Faulk catching passes, and Kurt Warner what plays would you call?
The man is an offensive Genious
ckparrothead
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When Marshall was running mad, Vermeil was stepping on Martz and telling him to feed the studs.
I have a high opinion of Martz as a coordinator. He IS an offensive genius. If he likes to pass the ball too much, I think Vermeil at least showed that the offense can come out on top anyway if the head coach forces him to get the ball to the star runner. That said, it would be stupid to keep Ricky and Ronnie around while Mike was our OC. We'd have to trade Ricky to the highest bidder and start working on getting a QB that can run Martz' offense. We would also have to switch gears as far as what kind of QB we look for, because Martz likes a strong arm but his offense is the equivalent of the Saban/Belichick defense...which is to say he needs a really really intelligent QB to run it. We'd basically have to revamp the QB position. Frerotte gone, Sage gone, Cleo gone...
Charlie Baggett would be the dude that ends up running this offense if Scott leaves. He's very familiar with the playbook from his days in Minnesota and in Miami, and this is the second time he's held the title of assistant head coach under Nick Saban.
I have a high opinion of Martz as a coordinator. He IS an offensive genius. If he likes to pass the ball too much, I think Vermeil at least showed that the offense can come out on top anyway if the head coach forces him to get the ball to the star runner. That said, it would be stupid to keep Ricky and Ronnie around while Mike was our OC. We'd have to trade Ricky to the highest bidder and start working on getting a QB that can run Martz' offense. We would also have to switch gears as far as what kind of QB we look for, because Martz likes a strong arm but his offense is the equivalent of the Saban/Belichick defense...which is to say he needs a really really intelligent QB to run it. We'd basically have to revamp the QB position. Frerotte gone, Sage gone, Cleo gone...
Charlie Baggett would be the dude that ends up running this offense if Scott leaves. He's very familiar with the playbook from his days in Minnesota and in Miami, and this is the second time he's held the title of assistant head coach under Nick Saban.
Alex44
Chicago Bears GM
Heres a question
IF Martz somehow ended up as our O-coordinator do we sign Kurt Warner?
I dont really want Warner but its just a question since he knows Martz offense
IF Martz somehow ended up as our O-coordinator do we sign Kurt Warner?
I dont really want Warner but its just a question since he knows Martz offense
ckparrothead
Premium Member
Alex22 said:
Warner's in Arizona for the intermediate term and he's not a free agent. Plus, Martz and Warner don't get along anymore.
Alex44
Chicago Bears GM
ckparrothead said:
I thought Warner signed a 1 year contract?
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Vince Young Is Leaning Toward Staying In School And Its Not Cool
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2280007
I JUST READ HERE THAT VINE MIGHT STAY IN SCHOOL THAT WOULD STINK FOR US WHETHER U WANT US TO GET HIM OR NOT IF U WANTED US TO GET HIM AND HE DOESNT COME OUT THATS BAD. BUT IF WE WE GUNNIN FOR CUTLER OF SOME ONE ELSE ITS BAD TO BECAUSE THEIR VALUE WILL GO UP SINCE THEY WILL BE THE SECOND BEST QB. ALSO THATS ANOTHER PICK A HEAD OF US THAT MAY BE USED TO DRAFT A GOOD DE, CB, OL, OR LB AND OUR WEAKNESS THAT STINKS.: COMMENTS:dolphins:
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2280007
I JUST READ HERE THAT VINE MIGHT STAY IN SCHOOL THAT WOULD STINK FOR US WHETHER U WANT US TO GET HIM OR NOT IF U WANTED US TO GET HIM AND HE DOESNT COME OUT THATS BAD. BUT IF WE WE GUNNIN FOR CUTLER OF SOME ONE ELSE ITS BAD TO BECAUSE THEIR VALUE WILL GO UP SINCE THEY WILL BE THE SECOND BEST QB. ALSO THATS ANOTHER PICK A HEAD OF US THAT MAY BE USED TO DRAFT A GOOD DE, CB, OL, OR LB AND OUR WEAKNESS THAT STINKS.: COMMENTS:dolphins:
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I dont think Miami would draft him anywhere. The Michael Vick type one-checkdown and then run offense has not taken the league by storm. I dont think Saban is going to convert to the option offense if Linehan leaves, either.
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He needs to stay in school if he wants any chance of being successful in the NFL. He really needs another year to work on his passing skills some more. Coming out would be a mistake for him, IMO. I wouldn't want Miami to draft him anyway. I seriously doubt Saban has given him any thought.
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