MERGED x 2: Cam Wake Hold-Out Thread
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IDK. he seemd largely ineffective last season, maybe it was the fact that refs absolutely let him get drug to the ground from behind nearly every play, but wake is a one trick pony and he knows it.
Finfan0120
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If we lose Marshall and Wake this year, I am DONE with this team until Ireland is gone. I can find another team to support, even after 34 years.
hoops
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how the heck is cam wake a one trick pony??? he's got more than one pass rush move...koa misi now thats the definition of one trick pony
damanref10
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i think they are referring to Cam only being a Pass rusher while not really offering much help in run support...
I could care less. Two most important things in football.. Quarterback and Pass Rush. He changes games for us with his "one trick"....
If people think we were subpar getting off the field on third downs as is... try and imagine it without him.
They need to find a way to free up some cap room to get him signed, i just dont see it happening
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When we get elite players, our FO pokes holes in their game and low-balls them.They become "overvalued". LOL.
But we overpay scrubs and wannabes. We look for players no one else will touch with a 10-foot pole. We squander all our cap money with junk players so we have nothing left to actually get anyone any good.
It is like we are actually TRYING to be the worst team in this league.
But we overpay scrubs and wannabes. We look for players no one else will touch with a 10-foot pole. We squander all our cap money with junk players so we have nothing left to actually get anyone any good.
It is like we are actually TRYING to be the worst team in this league.
hoops
Tua time!
well that argument is garbage...wakes plenty good enough in run support as a premium pass rusher...and make no mistake wake is a premium pass rusher in this league...he just gets no help
this d would never get off the field if he wasn't here...
miamiron
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Good points and a great example of this was last season
with Colombo.
We could have signed Brian Waters to be our right guard
and moved Jerry to right tackle instead Colombo played at right tackle
like he was in a toilet bowl
and Brian Waters went to the pro bowl...again
damanref10
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right there with you buddy lol. this whole situation is baffling to me
miamiron
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I'd take Jared Allen any day of the week and twice on Sundays
over Wake...The difference is Allen is elite and Wake is very good
Well the good news is that after 21 days Wake will be out of salary for the year. At 30K a day in fines it doesn't take long to burn through 650K lol.
hoops
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what does jared allen have to do with cam wake??? if you prefer allen over wake good for you...wakes still an elite nfl pass rusher...10 times better than anything else on this roster on the edge i can tell ya that
I think this a difference between Parcells and Ireland. Parcells rewarded his "good soldiers." Example: Ricky Williams. Ireland seems to take advantage of his good soldiers.
ciscoholgate
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It's a no win situation in the life of a Dolphins GM this day in age. Ireland and this whole Wake situation will not have an easy solution.
Wake is a premier pass rusher and those premier pass rushers make $7.5 million per season MINIMUM. Wake is 30 years old and not getting any younger.
So the length of a new deal is a concern. Do you give him 3 years? 4 years? 5 years? The longer the deal, the more likely Wake will be cut in the final years of his contract.
What does Wake's camp want? Do they want the big deal with a lot of guaranteed money?
Say we sign Wake to a 4 year deal worth $8 million a year on average, what if Wake's production falls of significantly this coming year?
Not only do we have to be careful with Wake's age, but he also plays a physically demanding position and injury is a concern.
Wake has played at such a high level the last two years and it is a shame he is getting paid peanuts, but remember all, he signed on the dotted line.
As long as Jake is not signed long term, I cannot imagine Wake getting a new deal. We have almost ZERO cap space right now and cannot afford to give Wake the deal he deserves.
Dansby, who was our prized Free Agent recently, has a bloated cap number and yet NO ONE complained when we signed him.
I could imagine this same scenario occurring if we give Wake a big deal and two years from now many will be crying the same old "why does so and so get paid so much"?
Wake cannot afford to sit out for very long, the $30,000 a day fines will catch up to him. Ireland is too stubborn to cave and I imagine Wake's camp will cave first.
I do hope Wake is able to remain a Dolphin for at least a few more seasons.
Wake is a premier pass rusher and those premier pass rushers make $7.5 million per season MINIMUM. Wake is 30 years old and not getting any younger.
So the length of a new deal is a concern. Do you give him 3 years? 4 years? 5 years? The longer the deal, the more likely Wake will be cut in the final years of his contract.
What does Wake's camp want? Do they want the big deal with a lot of guaranteed money?
Say we sign Wake to a 4 year deal worth $8 million a year on average, what if Wake's production falls of significantly this coming year?
Not only do we have to be careful with Wake's age, but he also plays a physically demanding position and injury is a concern.
Wake has played at such a high level the last two years and it is a shame he is getting paid peanuts, but remember all, he signed on the dotted line.
As long as Jake is not signed long term, I cannot imagine Wake getting a new deal. We have almost ZERO cap space right now and cannot afford to give Wake the deal he deserves.
Dansby, who was our prized Free Agent recently, has a bloated cap number and yet NO ONE complained when we signed him.
I could imagine this same scenario occurring if we give Wake a big deal and two years from now many will be crying the same old "why does so and so get paid so much"?
Wake cannot afford to sit out for very long, the $30,000 a day fines will catch up to him. Ireland is too stubborn to cave and I imagine Wake's camp will cave first.
I do hope Wake is able to remain a Dolphin for at least a few more seasons.
FinSince1971
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Wake will get signed. If for some stupid reason they move him, it better be a blockbuster trade up move. What if we trade to 2 and get RG3 ?