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Mike Wallace's Career Deep Receiving Statistics: Tannehill vs. Roethlisberger

FinfanInBuffalo said:
Then why didn't the numbers decrease from last season?
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His stats should of been better this year. Way better. If you don't understand that then there isn't anything else to discuss.

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And if you think Ryan isn't to blame then you're not a bright person.

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Morey161 said:
His stats should of been better this year. Way better. If you don't understand that then there isn't anything else to discuss.

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And if you think Ryan isn't to blame then you're not a bright person.

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Not saying that Tannehill didn't miss throws but perhaps the stats were the same in 2012 and 2013 because Tannehill and Roethlisberger missed an equal number of throws.
 
To me it looks like Wallace performs well downfield when his percentage of catchable balls isn't dramatically diminished.

That percentage is as follows:

2009: 52%
2010: 52%
2011: 46%
2012: 26%
2013: 22%

As you can see in the table above, his number of catchable balls has decreased from the 97th percentile in the league in 2009, to just under the 10th percentile in the league in 2013.

His downfield catch rate has likewise decreased from the 91st percentile in 2009, to the stunningly low 0th percentile in 2013.

Wallace's percentage of catchable balls downfield in 2013 (22%) isn't significantly different from Ryan Tannehill's accuracy downfield in general in 2013 (23.5%), nor from his accuracy downfield as a senior at Texas A&M (27.6%).
 
Gravity said:
To me it looks like Wallace performs well downfield when his percentage of catchable balls isn't dramatically diminished.
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"Catchable" pertaining to Wallace's T-rex arms and unaggressiveness for the ball needs a completely different variable when it comes to this definition.

Figure that one out in a formula.
 
Why is Hartline so much better on long throws with RT?
 
Sons of Shula said:
"Catchable" pertaining to Wallace's T-rex arms and unaggressiveness for the ball needs a completely different variable when it comes to this definition.

Figure that one out in a formula.
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Unless that's changed since 2009, I don't think it's a relevant enough concern to even put forth the effort.
 
Geforce said:
Hartline has the skillset and speed (4.5 40) Tannehill is used to.

The play design also plays a role in this. I think CK touched on this with one of his bleacher report articles someone posted a few months ago.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...olphins-quarterback-ryan-tannehills-deep-ball
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So basically youre saying Tannehill would be best suited for a lower level of play, such as college football or a lower level pro league like CFL or Arena, where the players arent so talented and fast. Makes sense.
 
WVDolphan said:
So basically youre saying Tannehill would be best suited for a lower level of play, such as college football or a lower level pro league like CFL or Arena, where the players arent so talented and fast. Makes sense.
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That is not what I said or even implied.
 
Southbeach 2 said:
Why is Hartline so much better on long throws with RT?
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He's better on throws of 20+ yards downfield, though we don't know the distance of the throws to him on average, compared to the ones thrown to Wallace. Of course it's plausible that if the throws to Wallace are significantly farther, then the distance of the throws alone could explain the difference between Wallace and Hartline in this area.
 
Gravity said:
To me it looks like Wallace performs well downfield when his percentage of catchable balls isn't dramatically diminished.

That percentage is as follows:

2009: 52%
2010: 52%
2011: 46%
2012: 26%
2013: 22%

As you can see in the table above, his number of catchable balls has decreased from the 97th percentile in the league in 2009, to just under the 10th percentile in the league in 2013.

His downfield catch rate has likewise decreased from the 91st percentile in 2009, to the stunningly low 0th percentile in 2013.

Wallace's percentage of catchable balls downfield in 2013 (22%) isn't significantly different from Ryan Tannehill's accuracy downfield in general in 2013 (23.5%), nor from his accuracy downfield as a senior at Texas A&M (27.6%).
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Gravity said:
He's better on throws of 20+ yards downfield, though we don't know the distance of the throws to him on average, compared to the ones thrown to Wallace. Of course it's plausible that if the throws to Wallace are significantly farther, then the distance of the throws alone could explain the difference between Wallace and Hartline in this area.
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I be happy to see any objective evidence that you have to support this. :chuckle:
 
WVDolphan said:
So basically youre saying Tannehill would be best suited for a lower level of play, such as college football or a lower level pro league like CFL or Arena, where the players arent so talented and fast. Makes sense.
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Or, maybe it takes some time to adjust to a faster WR. Guys like HOF WR's Rice and Carter have said that but, what do they know?
 
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