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More voicemails from Incognito

Honestly, being an African-American man, I'd start to get ticked if he continuously used that word on my voicemail too. Especially if he continued to threaten to slap my mother and $hit in my mouth. I wouldn't have handled it the same way as Martin but that would make me EXTREMELY uncomfortable.

would you hang out with him if you were so uncomfortable?
 
they were best friends, that sentiment has been echoed by pretty much every player in that locker room. he's going to need alot more then a few N words to have a case. Pouncy and Wallace didnt mind that language why would Martin who apparently was his best friend mind? there better be something of substance in those voice mails
 
Honestly, being an African-American man, I'd start to get ticked if he continuously used that word on my voicemail too. Especially if he continued to threaten to slap my mother and $hit in my mouth. I wouldn't have handled it the same way as Martin but that would make me EXTREMELY uncomfortable.

Right but wouldn't you handle it man to man, and not go behind his back like a little whiny bitch where you end up effecting the whole team?
 
even if it appears that a victim of abuse previously condoned said abuse....they can change their minds and claim harrasment. its very doubtful that martin wont win a settlement and that richie, the dolphins, and even the nfl will be helf responsible

Not for 7 months, sorry.
 
This is a strategy on the side of Martin now, which makes it apparent to me there is no intent to merely report any wrongdoing and help Martin, but to maintain public and media opinion. Players start swaying it one way, time to drop some more voicemails.


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Honestly, being an African-American man, I'd start to get ticked if he continuously used that word on my voicemail too. Especially if he continued to threaten to slap my mother and $hit in my mouth. I wouldn't have handled it the same way as Martin but that would make me EXTREMELY uncomfortable.

Great. How you feel about it doesn't matter to the Dolphins though. What's important is how they acted around each other off the field.

I don't consider myself to be similar to all white people. Some folks are more uppity than me, some are more into being jackasses, some are smarter, some are dumber.

Big world out there.
 
According to Robert Klemko (Pro Football Writer at Sports Illustrated), @RobertKlemko:

Source: More VMs with more N bombs that deeply upset Martin. Many layers to this onion ...


I don't see an end to this situation anytime soon. It could get much much uglier
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the important part about a voice mail is the context in which it was said,
considering that the N word was not banned from the lockeroom and many other nfl lockerooms, we need to here how he said it.

martin is looking worse and worse by the minute
 
I don't know about the rest of you, but what Martin is doing here is pretty clear to me. What a jerk-off.
 
even if it appears that a victim of abuse previously condoned said abuse....they can change their minds and claim harrasment. its very doubtful that martin wont win a settlement and that richie, the dolphins, and even the nfl will be helf responsible

What responsibility does the victim have in a bullying or harassment case?
 
It's not a real issue anymore .... the basis of the context has been reestablished by the players. They can release all they want now, their case is in disarray.

Hartline's comments about Martin sharing and laughing are devastating.

It's VERY easy to laugh at it, especially if it's the first time it happened and he didn't think much of it. I would've, to be honest. Question is, did the voicemails become progressively worse over time? More threatening in tone? More racist remarks? If so, THEN we have a problem...
 
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