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I'd say he's better than Spielman. I'd rather take Pioli.
:yes:Phishstix said:that's 11 probowl caliber players over 9 years. drafting an average of 1 probowler a year is pretty good.
BenchFiedler said:So you mean Chambers, McMike, Welker, Bua, Pope etc... are not real talents...Spielman's mistakes were that he gave too much to acquire too little...Like the Aj Feely and Gordon trade, but in my opinion, he is as good as it gets to evaluate talents..
Please dont forget Vernon Carey.BenchFiedler said:So you mean Chambers, McMike, Welker, Bua, Pope etc... are not real talents...Spielman's mistakes were that he gave too much to acquire too little...Like the Aj Feely and Gordon trade, but in my opinion, he is as good as it gets to evaluate talents..
godfater21 said:Todd Wade, Chris Chambers, Micmike. Wanny brought in some Stud Players also.
MDFINFAN said:This is over years and how many drafts and teams? Not too amazing.
godfater21 said:He took Anthony Simmons and could of had Rand Moss.
Same draft he took Todd Wiener in the 2nd and he could of had Hines Ward
He took Bulger in the 6th He could have taken Tom Brady
He got 2 1sts and a 4th for Ricky yeah look who he did the deal with. based off of that he could have got more.
Those are just some off of my head. I'm sure there is more if i did research.
godfater21 said:Todd Wade, Chris Chambers, Micmike. Wanny brought in some Stud Players also.
unifiedtheory said:That is some revisionist history right there....
Passing on Randy Moss was something EVERY (with the exception of the Vikings) team was prepared to do or did. I've grown weary of people saying so and so passed on Randy Moss so he is a terrible G.M....everyone did it.
32 teams...including the Patriots...passed on Tom Brady...at least 5 times.
"He could have gotten more then two firsts and a 4th for Ricky". Well, he got a 2nd and 2 firsts for Ricky. WHO THE HELL WOULD HAVE GIVEN HIM MORE? The guy ROBBED us. The 1st and 2nd was enough...getting the conditional pick (for very achievable statistics) was the kicker.
I'm not a Meuller fan but these are poor examples to disect his draft history.
I'm impressed with a lot of names on that list though and after reading more into in the other thread Mueller has been just about DEAD ON RIGHT when it comes to picking in the first rounds which is very good to hear.MDFINFAN said:This is over years and how many drafts and teams? Not too amazing.
godfater21 said:He took Anthony Simmons and could of had Rand Moss.
Same draft he took Todd Wiener in the 2nd and he could of had Hines Ward
He took Bulger in the 6th He could have taken Tom Brady
He got 2 1sts and a 4th for Ricky yeah look who he did the deal with. based off of that he could have got more.
Those are just some off of my head. I'm sure there is more if i did research.