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Why is Fisher in the succesful coach category, and Billick is not?

Fisher's career winning % is .542, with 6 winning seasons out of 16.5 seasons total.

Billick's career winning % is .556, with 5 winning seasons out of 9 total. Plus he has a super bowl ring.

If I had to interview 5 (leaving out those I didn't think would take the job, like Gruden, Cowher, etc) , I'd interview the following:

1. Billick
2. Sherman
3. Carmichael
4. Chudzinski
5. Zimmer

Bowles will get an interview to satisfy the Rooney Rule. Hell, the meeting where they tell him he's not getting the job could go long and they could try to make that count.
 
jason_taylor said:
imo i just dont think we go after just anybody as ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLL those names are mentioned ,imo fisher gruden ,or cowher will be the next coach in miami , as Ross has said NOT JUST ANY COACH WILL DO AND HE SAID OUT OF HIS OWN MOUTH THAT HE WANTED SOMEONE THAT HAS PROVEN( IN THE NFL ) IN THE NFL AND 90% OF ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL THESE COACHES BEING NAME NEVER DONE SQUAT (IN THE NFL )THERES THAT WORD AGAIN ( IN THE NFL) PEOPLE CAN SPECTULATE ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL THEY WANT BUT IN THE END ROSS WILL GET ONE OF THE BIG 3 AND EVEN IF IT TAKES A KINGS RANSOM I SEE HIM PULLING THE TRIGGER... THANX
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They don't want to work with Ireland. Any of those guys will want full control, or input in choosing a gm at the least.
 
BahamaFinFan78 said:
Can someone give the positives and negatives on Tony Dungy (if he was interested). Seems like and intriuging(sp?) idea; he built a Super Bowl team in Tampa without an elite QB (one of our deficiencies) and won one in Indy with and elite QB. Reminds me of Shula; able to adapt.
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Dungy won't be interested. He's done coaching, likely for good. If he did come back, I could see him returning to the Colts for a year or two to help clean up the mess his successor has made. I think the problem with Dungy is that he's not a great strategizer. He needs assistants who are very astute. However, he is a great motivator. His teams rarely give up on him or collapse. His players like him. He's very nearly the opposite of Gruden, who is an X's and O's kind of guy.
 
The “Big Names”- the coach has pedigree and a history of winning in the past. Would supposedly put interest back in the team.
  • Bill Cowher
  • Tony Dungy
  • Jeff Fisher
  • Jon Gruden
  • Andy Reid
The “Recylcled Coach”- Previously a coach (or presumed to be fired). Do they deserve a second shot?
  • Brian Billick
  • Tom Cable
  • Dom Capers
  • Romeo Crennel
  • Jack Del Rio
  • Herm Edwards
  • Jim Haslett
  • Eric Mangini
  • Mike Martz
  • Jim Mora Jr- New UCLA Head Coach
  • Marty Morningweg
  • Mike Mularkey
  • Josh McDaniels
  • Mike Nolan
  • Steve Spagnuolo
  • Marty Schottenheimer
  • Mike Sherman
  • Norv Turner
  • Gregg Williams
Offensive Coordinators or QB/O-Line Coaches- could these guys be a new innovative offensive mind?
  • Pete Carmichael
  • Rob Chudzinski
  • Tom Clements
  • Russ Grimm
  • Jay Gruden
  • Dirk Koetter
  • Bill Musgrave
  • Joe Philbin
  • Brian Schottenheimer
  • Marc Trestman
  • John Ramsdell
  • Steve Wilks
  • Bill O'Brien
Defensive Coordinators or DB Coaches- many feel there are solid coaches in waiting amongst this group.
  • Todd Bowles
  • Perry Fewell
  • Chuck Pagano
  • Mike Pettine
  • Rob Ryan
  • Mike Zimmer
  • Winston Moss
  • Dennis Allen
  • Joe Woods
  • Vic Fangio
Special Teams Coaches
  • Bobby April
  • Dave Toub
NCAA Coaches- does Ross go for the “wow” factor by digging from the college ranks?
  • Kirk Ferentz
  • Les Miles
  • Bob Stoops
  • Jim Tressel
  • Charlie Weiss- New KU Head Coach
  • Chip Kelly
Updated 12/31
 
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The “Big Names”- the coach has pedigree and a history of winning in the past. Would supposedly put interest back in the team.
  • Bill Cowher
  • Tony Dungy
  • Jeff Fisher
  • Jon Gruden
  • Andy Reid
The “Recylcled Coach”- Previously a coach (or presumed to be fired). Do they deserve a second shot?
  • Brian Billick
  • Tom Cable
  • Dom Capers
  • Romeo Crennel
  • Jack Del Rio
  • Herm Edwards
  • Jim Haslett
  • Eric Mangini
  • Mike Martz
  • Jim Mora Jr- New UCLA Head Coach
  • Marty Morningweg
  • Mike Mularkey
  • Josh McDaniels
  • Mike Nolan
  • Steve Spagnuolo
  • Marty Schottenheimer
  • Mike Sherman
  • Norv Turner
  • Gregg Williams
Offensive Coordinators or QB/O-Line Coaches- could these guys be a new innovative offensive mind?
  • Pete Carmichael
  • Rob Chudzinski
  • Tom Clements
  • Russ Grimm
  • Jay Gruden
  • Dirk Koetter
  • Bill Musgrave
  • Joe Philbin
  • Brian Schottenheimer
  • Marc Trestman
  • John Ramsdell
  • Steve Wilks
  • Bill O'Brien- Penn State Head Coach
Defensive Coordinators or DB Coaches- many feel there are solid coaches in waiting amongst this group.
  • Todd Bowles
  • Perry Fewell
  • Chuck Pagano
  • Mike Pettine
  • Rob Ryan
  • Mike Zimmer
  • Winston Moss
  • Dennis Allen
  • Joe Woods
  • Vic Fangio
Special Teams Coaches
  • Bobby April
  • Dave Toub
NCAA Coaches- does Ross go for the “wow” factor by digging from the college ranks?
  • Kirk Ferentz
  • Les Miles
  • Bob Stoops
  • Jim Tressel
  • Charlie Weiss- New KU Head Coach
  • Chip Kelly
Updated 12/31
 
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My official interview list

* Todd Bowles
* Rob Chudzinski
* Joe Philbin
* Mike Zimmer
* Mike Sherman
* Jeff Fisher
* Brian Billick
 
Hayden Fox said:
The “Big Names”- the coach has pedigree and a history of winning in the past. Would supposedly put interest back in the team.
  • Bill Cowher- Remaining with CBS
  • Tony Dungy- Remaining with NBC
  • Jeff Fisher
  • Jon Gruden- Remaining with ESPN
  • Andy Reid- Remaining with Philadelphia Eagles
The “Recylcled Coach”- Previously a coach (or presumed to be fired). Do they deserve a second shot?
  • Brian Billick
  • Tom Cable
  • Dom Capers
  • Romeo Crennel- New Kansas City Chiefs Coach
  • Jack Del Rio
  • Herm Edwards
  • Jim Hasslet
  • Eric Mangini
  • Mike Martz
  • Jim Mora Jr- New UCLA Head Coach
  • Marty Morningweg
  • Mike Mularkey
  • Josh McDaniels
  • Mike Nolan
  • Steve Spagnuolo
  • Marty Schottenheimer
  • Mike Sherman
  • Norv Turner- Remaining with San Diego Chargers
  • Gregg Williams
Offensive Coordinators or QB/O-Line Coaches- could these guys be a new innovative offensive mind?
  • Pete Carmichael
  • Rob Chudzinski
  • Tom Clements
  • Russ Grimm
  • Jay Gruden
  • Dirk Koetter
  • Bill Musgrave
  • Joe Philbin
  • Brian Schottenheimer
  • Marc Trestman
  • John Ramsdell
  • Steve Wilks
  • Bill O'Brien- Penn State Head Coach
Defensive Coordinators or DB Coaches- many feel there are solid coaches in waiting amongst this group.
  • Todd Bowles
  • Perry Fewell
  • Chuck Pagano
  • Mike Pettine
  • Rob Ryan
  • Mike Zimmer
  • Winston Moss
  • Dennis Allen
  • Joe Woods
  • Vic Fangio
Special Teams Coaches
  • Bobby April
  • Dave Toub
NCAA Coaches- does Ross go for the “wow” factor by digging from the college ranks?
  • Kirk Ferentz
  • Les Miles
  • Bob Stoops
  • Jim Tressel
  • Charlie Weiss- New KU Head Coach
  • Chip Kelly
Updated 12/31
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Hayden Fox said:
My official interview list

* Todd Bowles
* Rob Chudzinski
* Joe Philbin
* Mike Zimmer
* Mike Sherman
* Jeff Fisher
* Brian Billick
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I cannot lie...this list I made a week ago...I am personally pleased with whom they have interviewed to this point...Brian Billick notwithstanding.
 
The “Big Names”- the coach has pedigree and a history of winning in the past. Would supposedly put interest back in the team.
  • Bill Cowher- Remaining with CBS
  • Tony Dungy- Remaining with NBC
  • Jeff Fisher- New Rams HC
  • Jon Gruden- Remaining with ESPN
  • Andy Reid- Remaining with Philadelphia Eagles
The “Recylcled Coach”- Previously a coach (or presumed to be fired). Do they deserve a second shot?
  • Brian Billick
  • Tom Cable
  • Dom Capers
  • Romeo Crennel- New Kansas City Chiefs Coach
  • Jack Del Rio
  • Herm Edwards
  • Jim Hasslet
  • Eric Mangini
  • Mike Martz- Retired
  • Jim Mora Jr- New UCLA Head Coach
  • Marty Morningweg
  • Mike Mularkey- New Jacksonville Jaguars Head Coach
  • Josh McDaniels- New New England Patriots Offensive Coordinator
  • Mike Nolan- New Atlanta Falcons Defensive Coordinator
  • Steve Spagnuolo
  • Marty Schottenheimer
  • Mike Sherman
  • Norv Turner- Remaining with San Diego Chargers
  • Gregg Williams- New St. Louis Rams Coordinator
Offensive Coordinators or QB/O-Line Coaches- could these guys be a new innovative offensive mind?
  • Pete Carmichael
  • Rob Chudzinski
  • Tom Clements
  • Russ Grimm
  • Jay Gruden- Returning to Cincinnati Bengals as Offensive Coordinator
  • Dirk Koetter- New Atlanta Falcons Offensive Coordinator
  • Bill Musgrave
  • Joe Philbin
  • Brian Schottenheimer
  • Marc Trestman
  • John Ramsdell
  • Steve Wilks- New Carolina Panthers DB Coach
  • Mike McCoy
  • Bill O'Brien- Penn State Head Coach
  • Jim Caldwell
Defensive Coordinators or DB Coaches- many feel there are solid coaches in waiting amongst this group.
  • Todd Bowles
  • Perry Fewell
  • Chuck Pagano
  • Mike Pettine
  • Rob Ryan
  • Mike Zimmer
  • Winston Moss
  • Dennis Allen
  • Joe Woods
  • Vic Fangio
Special Teams Coaches
  • Bobby April
  • Dave Toub- Returning to Chicago Bears as Special Teams Coach
NCAA Coaches- does Ross go for the “wow” factor by digging from the college ranks?
  • Kirk Ferentz
  • Les Miles
  • Bob Stoops
  • Jim Tressel
  • Charlie Weiss- New KU Head Coach
  • Chip Kelly
Updated 1/18
 
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Take a look at the list...some possible DC's in the mix as well.

Eric Mangini, Jack Del Rio, Herm Edwards...

Mangini would really interest me as DC. 3-4 guy. Knows the division. Smart. Does well vs. Tom Brady.
 
Hayden Fox said:
The “Big Names”- the coach has pedigree and a history of winning in the past. Would supposedly put interest back in the team.
  • Bill Cowher- Remaining with CBS
  • Tony Dungy- Remaining with NBC
  • Jeff Fisher- New Rams HC
  • Jon Gruden- Remaining with ESPN
  • Andy Reid- Remaining with Philadelphia Eagles
The “Recylcled Coach”- Previously a coach (or presumed to be fired). Do they deserve a second shot?
  • Brian Billick
  • Tom Cable
  • Dom Capers
  • Romeo Crennel- New Kansas City Chiefs Coach
  • Jack Del Rio- New Denver Broncos Defensive Coordinator
  • Herm Edwards
  • Jim Hasslet
  • Eric Mangini
  • Mike Martz- Retired
  • Jim Mora Jr- New UCLA Head Coach
  • Marty Morningweg
  • Mike Mularkey- New Jacksonville Jaguars Head Coach
  • Josh McDaniels- New New England Patriots Offensive Coordinator
  • Mike Nolan- New Atlanta Falcons Defensive Coordinator
  • Steve Spagnuolo- New New Orleans Saints Defensive Coordinator
  • Marty Schottenheimer
  • Mike Sherman- New Miami Dolphins Offensive Coordinator
  • Norv Turner- Remaining with San Diego Chargers
  • Gregg Williams- New St. Louis Rams Coordinator
Offensive Coordinators or QB/O-Line Coaches- could these guys be a new innovative offensive mind?
  • Pete Carmichael
  • Rob Chudzinski
  • Tom Clements
  • Russ Grimm
  • Jay Gruden- Returning to Cincinnati Bengals as Offensive Coordinator
  • Dirk Koetter- New Atlanta Falcons Offensive Coordinator
  • Bill Musgrave
  • Joe Philbin- New Miami Dolphins Head Coach
  • Brian Schottenheimer
  • Marc Trestman
  • John Ramsdell
  • Steve Wilks- New Carolina Panthers DB Coach
  • Mike McCoy
  • Bill O'Brien- Penn State Head Coach
  • Jim Caldwell- New Baltimore Ravens Quarterback Coach
Defensive Coordinators or DB Coaches- many feel there are solid coaches in waiting amongst this group.
  • Todd Bowles- New Philadelphia Eagles DB Coach
  • Perry Fewell
  • Chuck Pagano- New Indianapolis Colts Head Coach
  • Mike Pettine
  • Rob Ryan
  • Mike Zimmer
  • Winston Moss
  • Dennis Allen- New Oakland Raiders Head Coach
  • Joe Woods
  • Vic Fangio
Special Teams Coaches
  • Bobby April
  • Dave Toub- Returning to Chicago Bears as Special Teams Coach
NCAA Coaches- does Ross go for the “wow” factor by digging from the college ranks?
  • Kirk Ferentz
  • Les Miles
  • Bob Stoops
  • Jim Tressel
  • Charlie Weiss- New KU Head Coach
  • Chip Kelly
Updated 1/19
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Updated again.
 
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Hayden Fox said:
Take a look at the list...some possible DC's in the mix as well.

Eric Mangini, Jack Del Rio, Herm Edwards...

Mangini would really interest me as DC. 3-4 guy. Knows the division. Smart. Does well vs. Tom Brady.
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No to Mangina.
 
Hayden Fox said:
Updated again.
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The “Big Names”- the coach has pedigree and a history of winning in the past. Would supposedly put interest back in the team.
  • Bill Cowher- Remaining with CBS
  • Tony Dungy- Remaining with NBC
  • Jeff Fisher- New Rams HC
  • Jon Gruden- Remaining with ESPN
  • Andy Reid- Remaining with Philadelphia Eagles
The “Recylcled Coach”- Previously a coach (or presumed to be fired). Do they deserve a second shot?
  • Brian Billick
  • Tom Cable
  • Dom Capers
  • Romeo Crennel- New Kansas City Chiefs Coach
  • Jack Del Rio- New Denver Broncos Defensive Coordinator
  • Herm Edwards
  • Jim Hasslet
  • Eric Mangini
  • Mike Martz- Retired
  • Jim Mora Jr- New UCLA Head Coach
  • Marty Morningweg
  • Mike Mularkey- New Jacksonville Jaguars Head Coach
  • Josh McDaniels- New New England Patriots Offensive Coordinator
  • Mike Nolan- New Atlanta Falcons Defensive Coordinator
  • Steve Spagnuolo- New New Orleans Saints Defensive Coordinator
  • Marty Schottenheimer
  • Mike Sherman- New Miami Dolphins Offensive Coordinator
  • Norv Turner- Remaining with San Diego Chargers
  • Gregg Williams- New St. Louis Rams Coordinator
Offensive Coordinators or QB/O-Line Coaches- could these guys be a new innovative offensive mind?
  • Pete Carmichael
  • Rob Chudzinski
  • Tom Clements
  • Russ Grimm
  • Jay Gruden- Returning to Cincinnati Bengals as Offensive Coordinator
  • Dirk Koetter- New Atlanta Falcons Offensive Coordinator
  • Bill Musgrave
  • Joe Philbin- New Miami Dolphins Head Coach
  • Brian Schottenheimer
  • Marc Trestman
  • John Ramsdell
  • Steve Wilks- New Carolina Panthers DB Coach
  • Mike McCoy
  • Bill O'Brien- Penn State Head Coach
  • Jim Caldwell- New Baltimore Ravens Quarterback Coach
Defensive Coordinators or DB Coaches- many feel there are solid coaches in waiting amongst this group.
  • Todd Bowles- New Philadelphia Eagles DB Coach
  • Perry Fewell
  • Chuck Pagano- New Indianapolis Colts Head Coach
  • Mike Pettine
  • Rob Ryan
  • Mike Zimmer
  • Winston Moss
  • Dennis Allen- New Oakland Raiders Head Coach
  • Joe Woods
  • Vic Fangio
Special Teams Coaches
  • Bobby April
  • Dave Toub- Returning to Chicago Bears as Special Teams Coach
NCAA Coaches- does Ross go for the “wow” factor by digging from the college ranks?
  • Kirk Ferentz
  • Les Miles
  • Bob Stoops
  • Jim Tressel
  • Charlie Weiss- New KU Head Coach
  • Chip Kelly
 
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