Official Poll: Tannehill is our QB for the next decade (Yes/No)
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phins_4_ever
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Crappy poll. Where is the "I am not sure yet" option.
It is ironic that those who put all there marbles into the Tannehill pocket say to the nay-sayers "what do you expect him to play like in year two. Like Dan Marino?" My question is: what did you see that you could say he is our franchise QB for the next 10 years (barring any injuries)?
Peyton Manning and his crappy first season is brought up a lot. I don't know how many of you were alive back then or in the age to actually watch football with a football interest rather than just being a teenage fan. But even with that crappy first season you knew that Manning will be a franchise QB. He made plays out of this world. Very Marino-like.
And that is the difference between an every-day serviceable QB and a franchise QB. You see it and you feel it. Most of you only really seen the last 10 years or so. So looking at Tannehill, yeah he looks better than the bunch we had. How hard is it to look better than Brian Griese or AJ Feely? Heck, even Chad Henne looked better than the bunch we had before.
I have seen certain potential in Tannehill to become a franchise QB but I also have seen plays which are good enough for a serviceable QB and I have seen too many bonehead plays.
This is why this poll is crap: you leave out an entire group who is evaluating Tannehill objectively and sees the positives and negatives. Because to be honest there is no way anybody at this point can say that Tannehill is the deal or no deal.
Last year it was the receivers, this year its OL and coaching - it is always something else for one group and for the other group it is just "Tannehill sucks, put in Devlin".
Close this thread and do another one and include everybody.
It is ironic that those who put all there marbles into the Tannehill pocket say to the nay-sayers "what do you expect him to play like in year two. Like Dan Marino?" My question is: what did you see that you could say he is our franchise QB for the next 10 years (barring any injuries)?
Peyton Manning and his crappy first season is brought up a lot. I don't know how many of you were alive back then or in the age to actually watch football with a football interest rather than just being a teenage fan. But even with that crappy first season you knew that Manning will be a franchise QB. He made plays out of this world. Very Marino-like.
And that is the difference between an every-day serviceable QB and a franchise QB. You see it and you feel it. Most of you only really seen the last 10 years or so. So looking at Tannehill, yeah he looks better than the bunch we had. How hard is it to look better than Brian Griese or AJ Feely? Heck, even Chad Henne looked better than the bunch we had before.
I have seen certain potential in Tannehill to become a franchise QB but I also have seen plays which are good enough for a serviceable QB and I have seen too many bonehead plays.
This is why this poll is crap: you leave out an entire group who is evaluating Tannehill objectively and sees the positives and negatives. Because to be honest there is no way anybody at this point can say that Tannehill is the deal or no deal.
Last year it was the receivers, this year its OL and coaching - it is always something else for one group and for the other group it is just "Tannehill sucks, put in Devlin".
Close this thread and do another one and include everybody.
I don't know if he will be as good as Brees, his ceiling is very high (still highest of the QBs of 2012), and when he is given time, he is very good.
He is able to read defense already, the mistake of the audible at the line from a run play to a pass play was a mistake, (as proven by the fumble), but for an offense that wants to be aggressive, that was the best play possible, because they were putting almost everyone on the line, and yes they were coming, but if the line is able to slow them down, Ryan was probably going to find someone very wide open, for a huge pickup, to possibly a TD.
Physically he looks the part, with also an above average arm, he just needs to work on feeling the pressure, and having that internal clock tell him when it is time to throw it away, move out of the pocket, or step up better. He also needs to become more consistent throwing deep, especially to his right (Get better timing with Wallace, it's been quite a few months now).
If he can fix those issues, then yes, he could reach the Brees type player status, or at least be a consistent top 10 QB, but for now I believe he is a top 15 QB with a little better, more consistent pass-blocking.
We dont need excuses,the fact is he still is a young gun growing into a solid QB.
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I said "yes" with a caveat. He has to be alive. If they don't fix this line, he will die and therefore will not be able to be our QB for the next decade.
The guy does too many good things for such a raw talent. 3 years playing QB competitively and he's this good already. You give him 2 more years and an Oline and he's a top 10 QB easy.
That being said, he does do some bad things, but I simply equate that to the rawness of him. And if he's still making bad decisions in 2 years, than he's Tony Romo. Worst case, I would be ok with that.
The guy does too many good things for such a raw talent. 3 years playing QB competitively and he's this good already. You give him 2 more years and an Oline and he's a top 10 QB easy.
That being said, he does do some bad things, but I simply equate that to the rawness of him. And if he's still making bad decisions in 2 years, than he's Tony Romo. Worst case, I would be ok with that.
He looks more like Romo than anyone right now -> and he is still way ytoo oung to give up on now -> his upside is greater than Henne
I think we saw how good Tannehill "could" be when given time to throw the ball. Our Oline has gotten worse and worse each week. He has had some good pockets, but he is already playing much different than when we started the season. Its sad that he is forcing throws and making bad decisions now, but i would assume the bad line play has a lot to do with it as he had less TOs first 3 games, than last 3.
ATL_PHIN_FAN
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But, don't let him go,
just give him a chance to grow!!!
Take it easy, take it slow.
Just don't let him go . . .
But, don't let him go,
just give him a chance to grow!!!
Take it easy, take it slow.
Just don't let him go . . .
I'm prepared to give Tannehill at least one more season while the rest of the team is further upgraded. He's definitely not the next Marino, and may not even be a franchise QB, but the Dolphins aren't going to be in a position to draft anyone like that in 2014.
ATL_PHIN_FAN
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Ahhhhhhhhh, but don't you hear the drums beating off in the distance for Matt Moore? Unfortunately, I've observed here long enough to know that knee jerk is the name of the game.
However, if Tannehill deteriorates like Chad Henne did in 2010, we may be in quite a good position to draft a quarterback, and if that's the case, I sure think we should do it.
Until you have a quarterback, you're going nowhere in this league, and it makes no sense to bypass one in the first round if you're convinced the one you have isn't the long-term answer. IMO Tannehill has to finish this season at the average level or better to warrant any longer-term investment in him.
ATL_PHIN_FAN
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You are always wanting to compare him to existing QBs. How about Drew Brees frome 2001 to 2003? Be prepared to cover your eyes, it ain't pretty. So, using your logic we give up on Tannehill after this season if his QB Rating is less than say . . . 85? OK, well Brees had back to back sophomore and junior years in the NFL at much less than that. You would have let Brees go, right?
http://www.nfl.com/player/drewbrees/2504775/careerstats
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Oh I know full well about Brees's early career. But notice they drafted his replacement who turned out to be successful. You're probably going to be wrong sometimes when you let a QB go, but you're probably going to be right far more often than not, and if you draft a replacement, he gives you a chance to get the QB you need even if the one you let go goes on to be successful somewhere else. Of course the worst of all worlds would be to let a QB go, draft a replacement, and have the former do well somewhere else while the latter busts. But I suspect those scenarios are exceedingly rare.
ATL_PHIN_FAN
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I think its a mistake to even consider it for the next few years. We need those picks for other positions. Even if Tannehill was doing much worse than he is (and in that case, Moore would be starting), I would hold onto the guy until his rookie contract ran out, or until someone offered me a top 15 pick for him. And, I'd be reluctant even then.
And why do you view his play as average? It is certainly not average when compared to other new QBs in the league over the past 20 years. I'll betcha he's doing better than 80% did up to their sophomore year, assuming they even started as rookies.
BTW, I'm pretty sure Alex Smith wasn't looking like a good investment for several years either.