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phunwin said:
The league may be the only party that KNOWS, but Boras has enough connections and enough inside info to have a pretty educated guess as to what teams are planning to bid. In theory, he could tell the Yankees, "hey, word is that the Mets are the high bidder at $25M."

Would he actually do this? I doubt it. Boras has a rep as a hard negotiator and a man who gets every last dime for his clients. But, part of the reason he can do that is because he, to everything I've heard, operates on the up-and-up. If he started feeding confidential info to one team or another, his rep would be shot, and he's got enough enemies that retribution, be it a huge fine, suspension from practice or (long shot) decertification by the MLBPA, would be swift and assured.

If Boras REALLY wanted to steer Matsuzaka to the Yankees, he'd simply say that his client didn't want to play for anyone else. And if something happened where another team won the bidding, Boras would simply tell that team "he's only playing in the Bronx. You're welcome to trade your bidding rights to them." Remember The Fat, ***** Toad...er, Hideki Irabu. (Edit: In this context, ***** is not the slang for a woman's private area, or a reference to a four-legged furry animal, but rather a reference to being full of pus...which is arguably worse. That George Steinbrenner is quite a wordsmith.)

But if Boras did that, he'd be painting himself into a corner. The bid price would be lower, and the Yankees, shrewd negotiators that they are, wouldn't be paying top dollar for Matsuzaka. Boras would get a rep as being beholden to the Yankees, which is the LAST thing he wants.

So, conspiracy theories are well and good, but in reality, the downside to Boras being in cahoots with the Yankees is too great for a smart guy like him to risk. Especially when the Yankees will probably shoot the moon with a bid in the first place, and thus get the desired outcome in a completely legal manner.

Well, Phil, according to Mike, you're naive. Shame on you.

Really, the only true leverage Boras has on where he ends up is this: just because a team wins the posting doesn't mean Matsuzaka wears their uniform next season. Whichever team wins simply gets 30 days of sole negotiating rights with him. After that 30 days, if there's no deal, he returns to Japan next season. Then, after 2007, he's a FA and can go wherever he wants, and the team, say, the Royals, as an extreme example, that just spent on $30 million on the right to be told "no" is SOL.

That's a powerful thing for Boras to have, but he can not prevent the hypothetical Royals from winning the posting.
 
RWhitney014 said:
Boston? Who ever mentioned Boston? They already have a pretty good LF and DH from what I hear.

no one said he was going to boston, i just said im glad that he won't be going there, i wouldnt want him associated with a team i root for was all i was getting at
 
Boston doesn't sign old guys. And they consider old guys to be in the early 30s!! They wouldn't even ever think of Barry. You don't sign Damon but then go get Barry??!! That would go over like a fart in church in Boston!!


Not to mention the fans would have nothing to chant at Giambi if they went out and got Bonds!
 
RWhitney014 said:
Well, Phil, according to Mike, you're naive. Shame on you.

Really, the only true leverage Boras has on where he ends up is this: just because a team wins the posting doesn't mean Matsuzaka wears their uniform next season. Whichever team wins simply gets 30 days of sole negotiating rights with him. After that 30 days, if there's no deal, he returns to Japan next season. Then, after 2007, he's a FA and can go wherever he wants, and the team, say, the Royals, as an extreme example, that just spent on $30 million on the right to be told "no" is SOL.

That's a powerful thing for Boras to have, but he can not prevent the hypothetical Royals from winning the posting.
It is naive.

Boras is running this whole thing. To think otherwise is being naive. Before any team places a bid you don't think they will talk to Boras. Say.."hey if we meet the price tag would he be happy coming to this part of the world"

Odds are Boras is going to say, he really wants to be in NY or Seattle or a major market with a japanese culture close by . So, no Cubs (just for example) you probably shouldn't place a bid.
 
MikeO said:
Boston doesn't sign old guys. And they consider old guys to be in the early 30s!! They wouldn't even ever think of Barry. You don't sign Damon but then go get Barry??!! That would go over like a fart in church in Boston!!


Not to mention the fans would have nothing to chant at Giambi if they went out and got Bonds!

are you blind?? did you not see where i said i never thought they would sign him? Did you not read the part where i said i was just glad that it wasn't even a possibility??
 
MikeO said:
It is naive.

Boras is running this whole thing. To think otherwise is being naive. Before any team places a bid you don't think they will talk to Boras. Say.."hey if we meet the price tag would he be happy coming to this part of the world"

Odds are Boras is going to say, he really wants to be in NY or Seattle or a major market with a japanese culture close by . So, no Cubs (just for example) you probably shouldn't place a bid.


Exactly. It's a silent auction for a reason, no one will actually know who really won. If it was an auction with teams bidding then we all would know who won and this kid would be stuck with whoever won. With it being a silent auction it allows for behind the scenes negotiating to happen and ensures that this kid is going to go where he wants to go, not to whoever is the highest bidder for his services!
 
UCFinfan86 said:
are you blind?? did you not see where i said i never thought they would sign him? Did you not read the part where i said i was just glad that it wasn't even a possibility??

and yet you STILL brought it up. So I responded! :shakeno:
 
Two old New York friends filed for free agency yesterday and though neither Roger Clemens nor Andy Pettitte has decided whether to play next season, the Yankees intend to inquire about both, according to a team source. The Yankees have talked internally about pursuing Pettitte, who left the Bronx after the 2003 season to sign with his hometown team, the Astros. And Pettitte apparently has told confidants that he would consider a return to New York, if he does continue to play. But nothing has been decided according to agent Randy Hendricks, who along with his bother, Alan, represents both players. "We will listen to anyone who calls," Hendricks said in an E-mail yesterday. "Neither player has decided whether he will play next year."

http://detroitnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061107/SPORTS0104/611070369/1004/SPORTS
The latest player to be tied to the Tigers' interest is Yankees outfielder Gary Sheffield, a 38-year-old slugger who has 455 career home runs and a .297 lifetime average. Sheffield, whose $13 million option for 2007 was picked up by the Yankees, played for Tigers manager Jim Leyland when both were with Florida. The Yankees are believed to be dangling Sheffield, who wants a multiyear contract.

http://www.dfw.com/mld/dfw/sports/15949086.htm
All indications are that the Rangers plan to bid for Daisuke Matsuzaka, who some say rivals Barry Zito and Jason Schmidt as the top pitcher on the market. The process of signing Matsuzaka is murkier than that of signing his counterparts, however, as teams generally try to downplay their interest so as not to tip their hand or drive bids up. "We're looking at it," Hicks said by phone Monday. "It's going to be a very competitive process." It's a competition the Rangers will participate in. Hicks declined to go into detail, and general manager Jon Daniels consistently passes on commenting on specific non-Rangers players. But Rangers director of international/pro scouting A.J. Preller has traveled to Japan several times in recent months to see Matsuzaka pitch, and the Rangers readily acknowledge they are in the market for frontline starting pitching.

http://www.bizjournals.com/eastbay/stories/2006/11/06/daily10.html?b=1162789200^1372371
The Oakland Athletics and Cisco Systems Inc., the San Jose Internet networking giant, are reportedly close to announcing a deal to move the team to Fremont. A's owner Lewis Wolff has been in talks with Cisco to purchase 143 acres of empty land the technology company has held for a number of years in a lease. Bud Selig, commissioner of Major League Baseball, is expected to be in the Bay Area for the Nov. 14 announcement. Wolff has expressed an interest in building a multi-use development on the site along Interstate 880 south of Auto Mall Parkway, including a baseball stadium along with housing and retail shops.

:D
 
I'm so happy the A's are finally getting a new ballpark.

The thing I wonder about is when will this effect their spending. Hopefully sooner then later.
 
rumors are the Padres are going after Barry Zito hard. In fact, it is said to be Zito's preference to sign with either the Padres or the Dodgers.
 
http://www.nypost.com/php/pfriendly/print....oel_sherman.htm

TRICKS OF THE TRADE
By JOEL SHERMAN

November 5, 2006 -- There is a general feeling about this free-agent market: It is underwhelming and overpriced. You may like elements such as Barry Zito or Alfonso Soriano, but basic supply-and-demand says they are going to run a fortune and help raise the costs on the next level of player, such as Ted Lilly and Gary Matthews Jr.

"There is a lot of money in the game right now, which means a lot of bidding on the few crumbs in free agency," one NL executive said, "so that means just add 10 to 20 percent on whatever you thought you were going to pay for any free agent."

That is why the trade market is so attractive right now. Well, that and the potential availability of so many high-profile players, particularly among hitters such as Alex Rodriguez, Manny Ramirez, Mark Teixeira, Adrian Beltre, Miguel Tejada, Carl Crawford, Adam Dunn, Vernon Wells and Andruw Jones. The only slugger certain to change teams, though, is Gary Sheffield. As one AL GM said, "trades are getting tougher and tougher to make these days."

That is because, in particular, teams value and horde inexpensive high-end players, particularly pitchers, like never before. To break the logjam, we will suggest four trades we think should get made. These ideas were run by more than 10 executives, who offered counsel and input, with the main goal being: Would you make the deal regardless of which side you were on (remember if both sides don't feel pain, it probably isn't a fair trade)? The concept here mainly is to give a sampling of just the kind of player potentially available in what could be a very tantalizing offseason:

Aaron Heilman, Lastings Milledge and Henry Owens to the Padres; Jake Peavy to the Mets

This would be extremely risky for both teams. With steroid-busted Guillermo Mota and Chad Bradford free agents and Duaner Sanchez rehabbing from shoulder surgery, the Mets would be gambling to deal Heilman from the 'pen. But the Mets do believe Sanchez will be ready and want to retain Bradford (but watch for the Yanks and Red Sox as Bradford's price rises dramatically because he did well against lefties last year and the relief market is so thin). They also think a starter such as Brian Bannister can get into the 'pen mix.

Omar Minaya is a Milledge fan, but that is not universal in the Mets organization and the team has two high-level outfield prospects - Carlos Gomez and Fernando Martinez - coming. Owens had an eye-popping Double-A year (74 Ks in 40 IP, .137 BAA), but he will be 28 in April and is still learning to pitch after a conversion from catcher.

The big question, though, is about Peavy. He had an iffy season (11-14, 4.09 ERA) in a pitcher's park and has some history of shoulder problems. But there is plenty to like. He is the kind of power arm Minaya has been pursuing (second most strikeouts over the past two years behind only Johan Santana). Despite the arm frets, he has made 62 starts the last two seasons. He has won in double digits four consecutive years, yet at 25, is still a year younger than Chien-Ming Wang. And with three years at $18.75 million left on his pact, he is reasonably priced. It seems a risk worth taking for the Mets because front-of-the-rotation starters are just that hard to find. They have inquired about the White Sox's Freddy Garcia, but the request of Milledge and Phil Humber or Mike Pelfrey is too much for a pitcher a year from free agency. And they are conflicted whether to spend substantially on Zito.

To do this deal, the Padres would have to be among the many teams that think the Mets undervalue Heilman and that he is a 15-win starter waiting to happen. In that case, they get a cheaper alternative to Peavy, add high-end potential in Milledge and Owens to a dubious farm system, and also gain more financial flexibility to find a bat. However, when right, Peavy is an ace, in a sport bereft of that animal. If the Padres move him, it may say a lot about what they think about him holding up with such a violent delivery.

Jeremy Bonderman to the Rangers; Mark Teixeira to the Tigers

The Tigers have oodles of what every club craves: young, high-end, reasonably priced starting pitching, so they are going to be popular this offseason. The untouchables are Andrew Miller (their first-round pick in June, whom Detroit thinks could be in the rotation next year), Kenny Rogers and Justin Verlander. In Wil Ledezma, Mike Maroth, Zach Miner, Humberto Sanchez and Jordan Tata, the Tigers have inventory to use individually or in combination to get a good piece. But, in the World Series, Detroit's main weakness was exposed. The Tigers are too right-handed and too impatient. To get a keen-eyed, lefty impact bat, they would have to move either Nate Robertson or more likely Bonderman.

The switch-hitting Teixeira would be ideal. The Tigers are unlikely to retain first baseman Sean Casey. Teixeira has increased his walk total every season from 44 as a rookie (2003) to 89 last year. His power could be hurt by spacious Comerica Park, but he is a good hitter regardless. And, at four years, he has the same service time as Bonderman. That is crucial.

Teixeira is a Scott Boras client, which means he is almost certain to test free agency after the 2008 campaign and, at just 28 then, be shopped as a $100 million-plus player. Texas, as it learned with Boras client Alex Rodriguez, must allocate its big money on pitching, not position players. But Detroit owner Mike Ilitch has willingly done mega-deals with Boras on position players (Magglio Ordonez, Ivan Rodriguez). The Rangers can draw hitters to their power-friendly park; don't be surprised if owner Tom Hicks imports Barry Bonds for his bat and to juice attendance as a DH. It is harder to get a young, front-of-the-rotation, power-armed groundball machine such as Bonderman, who already has three double-digit win seasons despite being just a year older than Verlander, the likely AL Rookie of the Year.

Vernon Wells to the Angels; Erick Aybar and Ervin Santana to the Blue Jays

The Orioles spurned this Angels offer for Miguel Tejada. The attractiveness of Tejada was he had three years left on his contract. Wells has just one and, perhaps, an affinity to return to his native Arlington to play with the Rangers upon free agency. But the Angels have deep pockets to remove such thoughts, especially with their need in center. Plus, Wells is three years younger than Tejada, who unlike Wells also comes with questions about his temperament.

Toronto knows it will be extraordinarily difficult to keep Wells long term. In Roy Halladay, A.J. Burnett and Santana, the Jays would come armed with a better rotation 1-2-3 than the Yanks or Red Sox. The switch-hitting Aybar (think Jose Reyes Lite) ends all the failed shortstop experiments. And the removal of Wells gives the Jays some additional dollars to go into the market to find some offensive upgrades to make his departure easier.

Miguel Montero and Chris Young to the Marlins; Dontrelle Willis to the Diamondbacks

The Mets want Willis, but it would take something close to overwhelming to pry him from Florida, and overwhelming has to start with a high-end catching prospect and center field prospect who are major league ready. That describes Montero and Young. The Marlins would have to believe Montero's catching skills continue to evolve to match his already superb hitting. This would be difficult for the D'backs because they love Young (they would prefer to move Justin Upton) and there have been indications they would deal starting catcher Johnny Estrada this offseason to make room for Montero. The Dodgers, with their elite farm system, could be players, as well, but their GM, Ned Colletti, is familiar with free agent Jason Schmidt from San Francisco, and L.A. also will be players for Zito.

Padres also expected to sign Akinori Iwamura; a gold glove winning, left handed 3B from Japan
 
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