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Omar: Bill Lazor intends to get Dolphin offense firing straight

Hope you're right. Taking up a roster spot for what he's done so far -- unconscionable.

LD

Let's keep him on the roster. He's a reminder of how mediocre Jeff Ireland was as our GM. I want the Ireland fanboys to be reminded of how mediocre JI was for the next several years...
 
Let's keep him on the roster. He's a reminder of how mediocre Jeff Ireland was as our GM. I want the Ireland fanboys to be reminded of how mediocre JI was for the next several years...

That's wrong on so many levels, but I like the way you think, lol.

LD
 
Is this thread about Egnew or something?

Oh right! It's about our offense as a whole! But yeah, let's get that straightened out. It would be nice to finally have an offense that keep up with the rest of the league. I can't believe we've only hit 30 points twice in the last 2 seasons. I want an offense that can put up 40 at least a couple times a year.
 
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We were too predictable, and defenses knew exactly when we were passing or running the ball, there was no confusion.

The biggest thing that we need this year though, imo, is for that running game to work. If it does, it will make everything else so much easier, and will also help Tannehill. If we can't run the ball like last year, then overall it's going to be a struggle.

Yea if we can run effectively it will open up the whole offense
 
While everyone has been bitching about our DEFENSE all off-season I've been talking about this:

Last season 17 teams averaged 23 or more points per game. That should be the goal for Philbin's team considering the Dolphins were 6-1 in games the team scored 23 or more points in 2013. That type of offensive execution could end Miami's playoff brought.

Our defense would widely be considered ELITE if we had even an average offense protecting it. Instead, we have people here asking "WHY IS OUR RUN DEFENSE SO BAD????" but if you're playing the Dolphins, you're probably winning the game, so no need to do anything but run it down our throat.

Fix the offense, you fix the problem. Don't talk about our defense.
 
We were too predictable, and defenses knew exactly when we were passing or running the ball, there was no confusion.

The biggest thing that we need this year though, imo, is for that running game to work. If it does, it will make everything else so much easier, and will also help Tannehill. If we can't run the ball like last year, then overall it's going to be a struggle.

All excellent points.

Last year Keller would have telegraphed pass if he had stayed healthy as he was essentially another slot possession receiver, nothing more. When he went down we replaced him with Clay, a seam threat receiver who also signals pass.

Neither could pass protect, which means the QB has limited options when he reads that the defense is blitzing. We didn't have a RB that was good at pass pro blitz pick up either. Tannehill's options were very limited last year because we lacked flexible players at TE and RB.

The go, go-go offense was an atrocity, but our personnel gave the run/pass signal before the cadence ever began. The Jerry arm tap and Pouncey head bob gave the defense the snap count every play. The lack of movement and formation variety made us the easiest offense in the league to game plan against. It was a nightmare.

Even if the individual play remains on par with last year, the unpredictability, motion, variety and tempo of this offense will lead to more production.

We will have the edge on snap counts. Without the head bob. We will disguise run/pass with versatile TE's like Lynch and RB's like Moreno. We will be better equipped to pick up the blitz because of those versatile players. We will move personnel around creating mismatches nd blown coverages. That creates extra chunk yardage gains each game.

The tempo will lock defenses into certain personnel groupings and repeatedly give us mismatches. It will wreck defenses situational substitution plans. This offense will require defenses to spend much more time game planning us ... and lead to more defensive mistakes.

When we had Larry Csonka we could run him up the middle on 3rd and 2, with full confidence that they could not stop us and not have to disguise anything. When we had Marino we could line up with an empty set and not worry that they knew it was a pass. We don't have a legend like that right now. We need to keep the defense guessing.

IMHO, Lazor, Benton and this offense gives us the best chance to succeed. Philbin may be loyal to his mentor, but I'm certain he sees that as well.

Sent from my phone, so please forgive any typos.
 
While everyone has been bitching about our DEFENSE all off-season I've been talking about this:

Last season 17 teams averaged 23 or more points per game. That should be the goal for Philbin's team considering the Dolphins were 6-1 in games the team scored 23 or more points in 2013. That type of offensive execution could end Miami's playoff brought.

Our defense would widely be considered ELITE if we had even an average offense protecting it. Instead, we have people here asking "WHY IS OUR RUN DEFENSE SO BAD????" but if you're playing the Dolphins, you're probably winning the game, so no need to do anything but run it down our throat.

Fix the offense, you fix the problem. Don't talk about our defense.
I agree 100% - Our Defense can improve, as well. However, by far the biggest opportunity to improve our winning record is focusing on Offense. The keys to this are:
- O-line improvement to protect Tannehill and significant improvement in the running game
- More creative play calling.
- Tannehill's developing his leadership and speed in accurately analyzing Defenses
 
I agree 100% - Our Defense can improve, as well. However, by far the biggest opportunity to improve our winning record is focusing on Offense. The keys to this are:
- O-line improvement to protect Tannehill and significant improvement in the running game
- More creative play calling.
- Tannehill's developing his leadership and speed in accurately analyzing Defenses

One more key that doesn't get mentioned much was our complete and utter inability to convert 1 yard, whenever we were in this situation you the offenses lack of confidence was palatable. Supposedly Lazor is the master at developing the QB sneak which could be huge if we're able to pick up those 3rd and 1's at will.
 
The go, go-go offense was an atrocity, but our personnel gave the run/pass signal before the cadence ever began. The Jerry arm tap and Pouncey head bob gave the defense the snap count every play.

My dad who coached HS football often said that the 2 most cerebral positions on Offense were Center & QB. There is no doubt of Tannehill's intelligence. It was Pouncey, in part, who held the offense back.

The lack of movement and formation variety made us the easiest offense in the league to game plan against. It was a nightmare.
IMHO, Lazor, Benton and this offense gives us the best chance to succeed. Philbin may be loyal to his mentor, but I'm certain he sees that as well.

The offense has been vanilla since Dan was forced out.

Here is what will always bother me about Henning. He was the OC for the Redskins during Joe Gibbs' 1st tenure. That scheme was all about motion & formations... so what the deuce happened?

Sherman was part of the offensive ineptitude last yr. I wonder; was brought in simply to make Ryan's transition smooth? That said, did he deliberately hinder the offense?
 
Sherman was part of the offensive ineptitude last yr. I wonder; was brought in simply to make Ryan's transition smooth? That said, did he deliberately hinder the offense?

Ireland deliberately hindered the offense when he refused to get us an upgrade to Martin. Sherman was just too old, plain and simple as that. Opposing coordinators were able to scheme defensive game plans a lot faster than Sherman could create new and effective offensive game plans.
 
The offense has been vanilla since Dan was forced out.

Here is what will always bother me about Henning. He was the OC for the Redskins during Joe Gibbs' 1st tenure. That scheme was all about motion & formations... so what the deuce happened?

Sherman was part of the offensive ineptitude last yr. I wonder; was brought in simply to make Ryan's transition smooth? That said, did he deliberately hinder the offense?

Both Henning and Sherman were knowledgeable and experienced, but were older, conservative, "safe" choices for the head coach. It may just be my imagination, but it seems to me when you have a rookie HC trying to make a career for himself, does he want a young, innovative OC working for him, who is high risk and high reward, and might even take over his job.....or does he want an older guy who won't screw up and it's a threat to take over? Both Sparano and Philbin, novice coaches, seemed to go for the latter.
 
My dad who coached HS football often said that the 2 most cerebral positions on Offense were Center & QB. There is no doubt of Tannehill's intelligence. It was Pouncey, in part, who held the offense back.



The offense has been vanilla since Dan was forced out.

Here is what will always bother me about Henning. He was the OC for the Redskins during Joe Gibbs' 1st tenure. That scheme was all about motion & formations... so what the deuce happened?

Sherman was part of the offensive ineptitude last yr. I wonder; was brought in simply to make Ryan's transition smooth? That said, did he deliberately hinder the offense?

Henning IMO really only became a liability when ironically we got him a legit WR in Marshall. His first 2 years he did use a lot of motion but we became way too reliant on the Wildcat.

With Sherman I just think that it was more being stubborn and not being able/refusing to adapt. Some guys can do it, some can't. He couldn't
 
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