Once and for all, IT WAS A FORWARD PASS!

[LDaniel7]

When is this forum going to give up on the perpetual victim's role? Doesn't it ever get tiring? I've been here since 2005 and I'm sure it dates to long before that. We never set aside the pathetic theme that the refs are out to screw us, that every game and decision are unfair.

Combine that with the happy adjustments and it's a weekly party. You don't need to know anything else. Show up on a Dolphin forum after not following the team for a year and the guarantee is we're projecting 15 or 20 more touchdowns and 2 yards more per attempt and 10 extra points per game, as long as we weren't victimized by all those unfair injuries or diabolical referee decisions.

Granted, it's not everybody. I applaud the segment who realized on Sunday night that the Roethlisberger play was very tight and would not have been overturned. I remember KTOWN, in particular, was the first to describe it accurately, that it was perhaps 6 inches forward but certainly not enough to overturn, based on established standards the NFL uses.

It's a Dolphin forum, after all, so no chance to acknowledge that we were incredibly fortunate when a skilled wide receiver wandered out of bounds on his own. When the opponent missed that decisive 18 inch putt, which would be the equivalent, we caused it.

The happy adjustments are the signature of this site. It's difficult to find a thread in which somebody isn't hoisting upward based on personnel decisions or similar nonsense. In the company I keep you'd be laughed out of the room and never respected again. I suppose all those teams and quarterbacks on the all time records and stats lists were protected by perfect general manager decision making and no injuries and no penalties and kickers who never missed. We're in our own vacuum of singled out suffering, and decades to go before we even threaten to inch alongside the second most unfortunate team on the list.

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I usually give you slack when you're curmudgeonly, Awsi -- because you're old school hard corps and I can appreciate that -- but this time I'm gonna tell you: IF it bothers you this much, then either 1. Get out of this thread; or 2. Shut the heck up.

All sanctimonious and high and mighty, acting like refs haven't DIRECTLY impacted the Dolphins' game this year, specifically the Baltimore and NE games -- whatever.

I'm the one who put my time on the line to discover the truth behind that play (and others) because yes, it bothers me that refs continually affect outcomes of games and consistently in the same direction. The evidence is overwhelming for someone who doesn't stick their head in the sand and then hate on people who don't stick their head in the sand.

The thread title was CLEAR as could be on the content. If you don't like it, don't click on it. Otherwise, quit throwing a hissy fit about those of us who do care.

Respectfully,

LD

 

[J. David Wannyheimer]

No reason to be sanctimonious about it.

Never stopped anyone before.

The thread title was CLEAR as could be on the content. If you don't like it, don't click on it. Otherwise, quit throwing a hissy fit about those of us who do care.

Yep. Save your breath though, he's already driven by.

 

[truedolfan57]

ok, so if Brown didn't step out of bounds, and ran in for a TD, the pass from big Ben was in fact a legal Lateral, would they then go back to the very beginning of the play, when the offense wasn't even set, when they hiked the ball? That certainly should have been a flag.

 

[hoops]

Its all good until its your team that is on the short end...Ill say this much...the situation reversed and I would dare bet the official blows the whistle before the QB could lateral the ball forward saying RT was "in the grasp". Seen it happen to many times & esp with Pitt.
Someone just posted that bogus "We cannot determine who had the ball after the Burger fumble in end-zone so its Pitt ball on the 1/2 yd line" debacle that happened the other season & even in this game two officials looking RIGHT AT Hartlines terrific catch ruled him OB. It took the Fins wasting the only Challenge of the half to fix it.
Yea...when you have been burned more than a few times you learn the fire is hot. If they would have let that last play stand giving Pitt the win I know of at least one fan who would have left the building permanently.

yeah and on that berger fumble in the endzone we not only dove on it first but came out of the pile with the damn ball when they uncovered the bodies...that's just horse **** and makes you wonder about the integrity of the league...but nothing was worse that i have seen than the first patriots game...every time the d was gonna get off the field and not allow points in the 2nd half they called some straight bs...

this happy adjustment thing the dinosaur is stuck on is a joke too...no one gives a rip who you keep company with boss...smoke your cigars drink your bourbon and tell war stories til the cows come home...

 

[J. David Wannyheimer]

ok, so if Brown didn't step out of bounds, and ran in for a TD, the pass from big Ben was in fact a legal Lateral, would they then go back to the very beginning of the play, when the offense wasn't even set, when they hiked the ball? That certainly should have been a flag.

No, you don't understand. It's a happy adjustment. I knew Bill Arnsparger's son.

 

[nyjunc]

ok, so if Brown didn't step out of bounds, and ran in for a TD, the pass from big Ben was in fact a legal Lateral, would they then go back to the very beginning of the play, when the offense wasn't even set, when they hiked the ball? That certainly should have been a flag.

they wouldn't have been able to do that.

 

[hoops]

ok, so if Brown didn't step out of bounds, and ran in for a TD, the pass from big Ben was in fact a legal Lateral, would they then go back to the very beginning of the play, when the offense wasn't even set, when they hiked the ball? That certainly should have been a flag.

**** no they wouldn't...they may have apologized like they did to us after the ravens illegally lined up and rushed the kick that would have tied the game from 53 yards...but you would have still got a check mark in the loss column

although with sturgis an extra 15 yards may not get it done anyways...

 

[J. David Wannyheimer]

It is amusing to me that we are still talking about a play in which the Pittsburgh Steelers failed on three counts to get a miracle, desperation win (after being outplayed for 59 minutes and 59 seconds) and we are somehow supposed to believe that the Steelers got robbed because Antonio Brown stepped out of bounds. And our rationale for this is that the coaches' film showing what is pretty clearly a forward lateral is too grainy to be taken seriously. And since the illegal formation wasn't called, then clearly the Steelers are the victims of a stroke of terrible luck. Miami got lucky!

 

[truedolfan57]

they wouldn't have been able to do that.

Then that's horse poop. A TD should be reviewed from the very beginning of a play, to the very end of the play, which results in a TD called on the field.

 

[LDaniel7]

It is amusing to me that we are still talking about a play in which the Pittsburgh Steelers failed on three counts to get a miracle, desperation win (after being outplayed for 59 minutes and 59 seconds) and we are somehow supposed to believe that the Steelers got robbed because Antonio Brown stepped out of bounds. And our rationale for this is that the coaches' film showing what is pretty clearly a forward lateral is too grainy to be taken seriously. And since the illegal formation wasn't called, then clearly the Steelers are the victims of a stroke of terrible luck. Miami got lucky!

That about says it all, lol.

LD

 

[J. David Wannyheimer]

Oh, and let's not forget that on the play just prior to that, Ben Roethlisberger FUMBLED THE FOOTBALL which was recovered by Miami for a score. The refs blew the play dead and there was no review, even though at the very least, it should have been reviewed. But Miami got lucky. Miami got lucky, folks. There was no ****ty officiating in the final seconds of the game in which the officials missed several blatantly obvious things that would have ended the game immediately. Miami just got lucky that Antonio Brown stepped out of bounds.

 

[SB Dreamer]

It is amusing to me that we are still talking about a play in which the Pittsburgh Steelers failed on three counts to get a miracle, desperation win (after being outplayed for 59 minutes and 59 seconds) and we are somehow supposed to believe that the Steelers got robbed because Antonio Brown stepped out of bounds. And our rationale for this is that the coaches' film showing what is pretty clearly a forward lateral is too grainy to be taken seriously. And since the illegal formation wasn't called, then clearly the Steelers are the victims of a stroke of terrible luck. Miami got lucky!

If you think that's amusing you should have seen the reaction I had when I flipped over to the red zone channel for a second to see the Baltimore debacle and came back to find Antonio Brown dancing around in the end-zone.

 

[LDaniel7]

Oh, and let's not forget that on the play just prior to that, Ben Roethlisberger FUMBLED THE FOOTBALL which was recovered by Miami for a score. The refs blew the play dead and there was no review, even though at the very least, it should have been reviewed. But Miami got lucky. Miami got lucky, folks. There was no ****ty officiating in the final seconds of the game in which the officials missed several blatantly obvious things that would have ended the game immediately. Miami just got lucky that Antonio Brown stepped out of bounds.

It was simply weird, that whole string of events -- and smack in the middle of it was an inept or *something* ref crew.

Anyone really think that if the shoe was on the other foot, playing in Miami, and Ryan T on that last drive fumbles, that it isn't immediately reviewed?

Or or a whole smorgasbord of other game-ending things aren't called?

SMH.

LD

 

[hoops]

some qbs get calls...they do...you can't tell me that a hit on brandon weeden is viewed like a hit on tom brady for instance...some guys have i guess earned it...berger is one of those guys who will get the benefit of the doubt...

tannehill is not there yet...but i think he will be and the shoe will be on the other foot...i swear the nfl makes you wait your turn or plays favorites with some of the stuff i see...

 

[J. David Wannyheimer]

I'm not saying it's a conspiracy against Miami one way or another, but let's be realistic. The Dolphins got straight up ****ing screwed in 2010 against the Steelers, and if that Antonio Brown play had been ruled a touchdown, Miami would have been straight up screwed again. That clearly wasn't a legal play from the beginning, and it never should have happened due to the fumble on the previous play. Anyone claiming that we are being delusional or optimistic to acknowledge those facts is a putz.

And apologies to anyone I just labeled a putz, but that's exactly what you are. Load up your tommy gun for another pass if it offends you that much.