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our top 5 QB'S since Marino?

1. Penny
2. Fiedler
3. Tannehill
4. Moore
5. Henne??? They all kind of run together like warm poo.
 
A Jets fan should never apologize for or adjust Joe Namath's career. Only true knuckleheads knock Namath. It's one of the great litmus tests toward football knowledge. Young simpletons who have no clue toward how football was played in that era prefer to stupidly apply today's percentages to that period. It's beyond laughable.

Namath was a true gunslinger who terrorized defenses. He was above 8 yards per attempt in his prime, and his prime already was compromised by wobbly knees based on injuries at Alabama and early in his pro career. Namath's lifetime yards per completion is more than 2 yards above Dan Marino's number, in fact Marino's best year in that category didn't threaten to match Namath's lifetime average. Namath had something like 8 or 9 seasons above Marino's best YPC year of 1984.

Naturally when the offense is designed to take more risks there will be lower completion percentage and more picks. That era was a joy to watch because it included a blend of physical running plays in high numbers along with downfield aggression. Defenders were allowed to wipe out wide receivers with no such thing as a 5 yard zone. Until the ball was in the air the receiver was fair game. That often accounted for the interceptions. A quarterback would aim for a spot but the receiver was eliminated a fraction off a second before the ball was released. No harm, no foul. The defensive back said thank you very much. Defensive linemen could head slap and punch and use similar brute tactics. Offensive linemen countered with chop blocks, often in combination.

There are young writers who make that gaffe. They mean well but shouldn't have positions on those papers or sites. It's hilarious that we make severe distinction between a Sherman era and a Lazor era but prefer to pretend that '60s NFL was identical to today. I'm glad I saw both and remember well. You don't see me commenting on '50s football or anything prior to the late '60s because I have no clue.
 
Agree about Namath and the football of that era. He's one of my all time favorites even though he was a Jet.

As far as dolphin's i'd say Roman's list is about right

1. Penny
1a. Fiedler

3. Tannehill
4. Moore
5. Henne
 
So I see this as similar to rating the last 20 dumps I took and ranking the 5 best turds. At the end of the day, they were all pretty much ****.
 
Awsi Dooger said:
A Jets fan should never apologize for or adjust Joe Namath's career. Only true knuckleheads knock Namath. It's one of the great litmus tests toward football knowledge. Young simpletons who have no clue toward how football was played in that era prefer to stupidly apply today's percentages to that period. It's beyond laughable.

Namath was a true gunslinger who terrorized defenses. He was above 8 yards per attempt in his prime, and his prime already was compromised by wobbly knees based on injuries at Alabama and early in his pro career. Namath's lifetime yards per completion is more than 2 yards above Dan Marino's number, in fact Marino's best year in that category didn't threaten to match Namath's lifetime average. Namath had something like 8 or 9 seasons above Marino's best YPC year of 1984.

Naturally when the offense is designed to take more risks there will be lower completion percentage and more picks. That era was a joy to watch because it included a blend of physical running plays in high numbers along with downfield aggression. Defenders were allowed to wipe out wide receivers with no such thing as a 5 yard zone. Until the ball was in the air the receiver was fair game. That often accounted for the interceptions. A quarterback would aim for a spot but the receiver was eliminated a fraction off a second before the ball was released. No harm, no foul. The defensive back said thank you very much. Defensive linemen could head slap and punch and use similar brute tactics. Offensive linemen countered with chop blocks, often in combination.

There are young writers who make that gaffe. They mean well but shouldn't have positions on those papers or sites. It's hilarious that we make severe distinction between a Sherman era and a Lazor era but prefer to pretend that '60s NFL was identical to today. I'm glad I saw both and remember well. You don't see me commenting on '50s football or anything prior to the late '60s because I have no clue.
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and after getting mugged receivers didn't get up whining for a flag. The game was so much more intense back then.
 
allsilverdreams said:
this is a real difficult question for me.we had so many flops so many promsing rookies.my list is as follows
1 Fiedler
although not a great player by any means he was a winner.even with Wanstash as coach
2 Pennington
if he was here longer he may have really helped us
3 Tannenhill
he has so much talent but is frustrating as well.so many bad throws and sacks
4 Moore
really thought he was the man until we drafted RT at #8
5 did we really have a #5?Trent Green i guess
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its depressing to even contemplate. For me, the QB during this era of ineptitude that I will remember more than any other - and for just one pass - is Cleo Lemon who's OT strike to Cammarillo kept us from going 0-16. How sad is that?
 
Awsi Dooger said:
A Jets fan should never apologize for or adjust Joe Namath's career. Only true knuckleheads knock Namath. It's one of the great litmus tests toward football knowledge. Young simpletons who have no clue toward how football was played in that era prefer to stupidly apply today's percentages to that period. It's beyond laughable.

Namath was a true gunslinger who terrorized defenses. He was above 8 yards per attempt in his prime, and his prime already was compromised by wobbly knees based on injuries at Alabama and early in his pro career. Namath's lifetime yards per completion is more than 2 yards above Dan Marino's number, in fact Marino's best year in that category didn't threaten to match Namath's lifetime average. Namath had something like 8 or 9 seasons above Marino's best YPC year of 1984.

Naturally when the offense is designed to take more risks there will be lower completion percentage and more picks. That era was a joy to watch because it included a blend of physical running plays in high numbers along with downfield aggression. Defenders were allowed to wipe out wide receivers with no such thing as a 5 yard zone. Until the ball was in the air the receiver was fair game. That often accounted for the interceptions. A quarterback would aim for a spot but the receiver was eliminated a fraction off a second before the ball was released. No harm, no foul. The defensive back said thank you very much. Defensive linemen could head slap and punch and use similar brute tactics. Offensive linemen countered with chop blocks, often in combination.

There are young writers who make that gaffe. They mean well but shouldn't have positions on those papers or sites. It's hilarious that we make severe distinction between a Sherman era and a Lazor era but prefer to pretend that '60s NFL was identical to today. I'm glad I saw both and remember well. You don't see me commenting on '50s football or anything prior to the late '60s because I have no clue.
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Joe Namath was a loser and the only two reasons he is in the Hall of Fame is because of that guarantee and his big flashy personality.

Joe Namath Stats:

TDS: 173
INTs: 220
Yards: 27,663
Rating: 65.5
Comp %: 50.1
Win/Loss: 62-63-4

Three winning seasons in his entire career. I have often wondered how in the world he made it into Hall of Fame and the above reasons is the only thing I can ever come up with.
 
1. Cleo Lemon
2. Sage Rosenfels
3. Tyler Thigpen
4. John Beck
5. Ray Lucas

:lol2:
 
allsilverdreams said:
this is a real difficult question for me.we had so many flops so many promsing rookies.my list is as follows
1 Fiedler
although not a great player by any means he was a winner.even with Wanstash as coach
2 Pennington
if he was here longer he may have really helped us
3 Tannenhill
he has so much talent but is frustrating as well.so many bad throws and sacks
4 Moore
really thought he was the man until we drafted RT at #8
5 did we really have a #5?Trent Green i guess
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How about Brian Griese (hailed as a new Marino), AJ Feely (even our owner thought we had the new Marino), Chad Henne (our Marino of the 2nd round)? So many names, so many Marinos.

The one who was most successful after Marino and the one who really had a raw deal starting right after Marino retired got the biggest crap from fans and media. 11-5; 11-5; 9-7; 10-6
 
I think it's safe to say that one of the worst memories any of us Phins fans have is the game Lemon played in. That couldn't possibly rank as one of the worst performances ever by an NFL QB.

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phins_4_ever said:
How about Brian Griese (hailed as a new Marino), AJ Feely (even our owner thought we had the new Marino), Chad Henne (our Marino of the 2nd round)? So many names, so many Marinos.

The one who was most successful after Marino and the one who really had a raw deal starting right after Marino retired got the biggest crap from fans and media. 11-5; 11-5; 9-7; 10-6
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I so wanted to see Brian Griese be that guy but pretty much knew from the get go it wouldn't happen.
 
I almost feel like this thread would be better if we ranked worst 5 of the 18 QB's since Marino.
 
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