PFF 2023 NFL offensive line rankings:

[utahphinsfan]

Our offensive line was, well, offensive last year.

If it was defensive... that'd be a whole different issue... wouldn't it?

/s

 

[utahphinsfan]

I'm thinking along those same lines.

Austin Jackson looks like he's put the work in. He's physically impressive.

Eichenberg will always just be the guy we passed on Creed Humphrey for.

As an Ohio State fan, gotta say, I don't even like Tommy Eichenberg, star LB and younger brother of Liam. I'm holding a grudge there too.

Is Grudge like a chimera of Grunge (music) & Fudge? /s

 

[utahphinsfan]

Until we get maulers on our Oline, hard to argue with that present ranking.

Maulers in a zone scheme?

 

[The Ghost]

Top two picks in 2024 will be OL + DL or OL + OL.

 

[ugadolfan]

First off, guy who wrote the article doesn't have the starting line up correct.

Eichenburg is no longer the LG. That's now Wynns spot. Eich will be the backup G/C.

I want to remind everyone that I've been Austin Jackson's biggest hater in the entire world, but he looks incredible right now. He's lost so much body fat it's almost unbelievable. For the first time in my life I'm actually comfortable with Jackson starting on this Oline.

Armstead really pisses me off bc he hasn't even made it through a season healthy. There are 4 things that are certain in life, Death, Taxes and Tua and Armstead getting injured every season. If those 2 stay healthy all year were winning a superbowl I have no doubt. Odds on them both staying healthy all year are prob 1/1,000,000 however.

We lack depth on the oline and that's gonna be our downfall if we don't win it all this year. It's likley too late to fix this now so we just need to prey that everyone stays healthy and Williams comes back to play center.

I see this sentiment about Armstead a lot on here and it ignores the fact that it’s ridiculously rare for an elite offensive lineman to play every game in a season. Trent Williams hasn’t played a full season in 10 years. Lane Johnson has played a full season twice in his career, in his first and third season. Bulaga has missed the past two seasons.

Truth is, when your job requires you to carry 300 lbs and block 250+ lb athletic freakshows you’re bound to get banged up. T stead showed last year that he’s willing to play through pain when he can. If we can get 10-11 games out of him and he plays in the playoffs that’s a win at his contract

 

[The Ghost]

I see this sentiment about Armstead a lot on here and it ignores the fact that it’s ridiculously rare for an elite offensive lineman to play every game in a season. Trent Williams hasn’t played a full season in 10 years. Lane Johnson has played a full season twice in his career, in his first and third season. Bulaga has missed the past two seasons.

Truth is, when your job requires you to carry 300 lbs and block 250+ lb athletic freakshows you’re bound to get banged up. T stead showed last year that he’s willing to play through pain when he can. If we can get 10-11 games out of him and he plays in the playoffs that’s a win at his contract

Ya, which is why good, healthy OL never hit the open market. Its just so rare.

 

[fin007]

You don't get maulers when your scheme is zone/wide zone. You get agile, good footwork, assignment sound guys.

Tell that to Philadelphia.

 

[kcbrown]

No surprises there. Eichenberg got thrown around like a ragdoll last year. Spent way to much time on the ground , and doesn't seem to anchor down well. Maybe it's technique, but it appears he lacks natural strength in his lower body.

I wouldn't put Eich anywhere near my starting o-line.

Not sure why they keep risking Tua's health with the guy.

Unless he blocks Davis/Sieler/Wilkins consistently in practice all summer, I'd bury him on the depth chart and put Wynn in.

Jackson as well unless he shows that his sack has dropped and he's now ready for the big boys.

 

[Mach2]

Tell that to Philadelphia.

No idea what you mean but, generally, the term "mauler" is associated with power rushing schemes.

 

[Mindtornado]

You don't get maulers when your scheme is zone/wide zone. You get agile, good footwork, assignment sound guys.

True, but it wouldn’t hurt if they were a little mean.

 

[jimthefin]

I'm thinking along those same lines.

Austin Jackson looks like he's put the work in. He's physically impressive.

Eichenberg will always just be the guy we passed on Creed Humphrey for.

As an Ohio State fan, gotta say, I don't even like Tommy Eichenberg, star LB and younger brother of Liam. I'm holding a grudge there too.

I try not to fixate on missing on taking Humphrey but it is difficult not to. Drafting Humphrey would have saved the expense(and present annoyance)of Connor Williams not to mention the pick(a 3rd rounder I think)to move up for Eichenberg. Humphrey would have made the C position a strength for a long time and made it a lot easier to rebuild(or just BUILD to be honest)the OL. Hell, maybe you still sign Williams and plug him in at LG where he belongs.

Not as bad as taking Charles Harris over TJ Watt or Eddie Moore over Anquan Boldin, but it is up there.

 

[Ray R]

Different year, same old BS! For a decade now we have been somewhere around here when everyone is healthy. The ISSUE IS AND HAS BEEN that once one or maybe 2 players go down, we drop to 33rd in the league (yes that is a joke to make a point). Hopefully Williams comes around soon, because this line is bad enough when just Armstead goes down.

That is the reality of things, you sugar coaters are delusional.

I bet you would "enjoy" the taste of hemlock.
I understand it is very bitter. - LOL

 

[Ray R]

You aren't wrong, of course, but in the context of Oline coaching specifically, we have yet another new Oline coach.

No doubt conceptually things will be the same with Smith and McD, but it's still a new Oline coach.

At least it's a guy with a hell of a lot more NFL experience than last season. I always thought handing the job to a meh college Oline coach was very questionable in year one install of a completely different philosophy.

Love McD, but he should have known better on that choice. Perhaps none of his top choices were available, but there must have been someone with a better resume out there

True - to an extent.

A change in our secondary coaches in any area will not often have the level of effect as a change in OC, DC, or HC.

As for the coaches brought in during year one of an install with a new HC - the ones you want are not always available.

Just a few of my observations.

 

[The Ghost]

I try not to fixate on missing on taking Humphrey but it is difficult not to. Drafting Humphrey would have saved the expense(and present annoyance)of Connor Williams not to mention the pick(a 3rd rounder I think)to move up for Eichenberg. Humphrey would have made the C position a strength for a long time and made it a lot easier to rebuild(or just BUILD to be honest)the OL. Hell, maybe you still sign Williams and plug him in at LG where he belongs.

Not as bad as taking Charles Harris over TJ Watt or Eddie Moore over Anquan Boldin, but it is up there.

I don't usually get to upset over the players we've missed out on. It's happens to everyone, so many times and really on the QB's have the kind of impact we can bemoan missing out on.

Creed Humphrey bothers me because it was the OBVIOUS choice. I had a picture of CH in my signature all season that year, just begging for that selection.

Too think what could've been with Waddle, Phillips, Holland and Creed Humphrey, would've been a mind blowing draft (still should be).

And also, I liked Charles Harris too. I've admitted it many times. I mean he did have a pretty solid 2021 season and the Lions were counting on him last year before he got hurt.

 

[1972forever]

I would settle for a 15th or 16th ranking at the end of the season. With Tua’s ability to get rid of the ball quickly and if the OL can show improvement in it’s run blocking, a middle of the pack offensive line will be just fine.

Especially because the defense with Fangio as the DC should be one of the best defenses in the entire league.