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dlockz said:
I think the difference in qb really comes after 10 but its all about opinion. Even though Im not a Romo fan I still see him as quite a better qb than Tannehill at this point. He had a sick sub 2 interception percentage this year and a TD ratio of 3 to 1.
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Tony Romo is a good QB. As I see it, he has one problem: the Cowboys defense.

I guess you can call him a choker but people forget he actually has 20 4th quarter comebacks and 23 game winning drives in his career.
 
dlockz said:
So called objective evidence. Because its subjective how you choose to view the correlation to being a good qb and YPA. My problem with YPA is you can still throw a ton of interceptions and still have a high YPA.
That's why a guy like Scott Tolzien has a very good YPA of 8 but still had 5 int versus 1 td. There are other issues but this is one of the biggest
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I'm happy to agree to disagree with anyone who fails to perceive a correlation between YPA and individual QB ability, the inevitable exceptions to the rule notwithstanding.

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FinfanInBuffalo said:
Simple questions for the Angry Deniers - Why is Andrew Luck's YPA not an indication that he is not very good? Should Indy fans be as upset by his performance as you seem to be about Tannehill's?
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In the measurable areas other than clutch play, Andrew Luck isn't very good. He's average.
 
FinfanInBuffalo said:
Sadly he and Pouncey are the only players on offense that rank in that range at their positions and these clowns want to blame Tannehill.
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"Blaming" Tannehill and appraising Tannehill's current level of play as insufficient to make the team highly competitive, while citing the absence of objective evidence that it's attributable to anyone but him, might be two different things.

He could be the least blameworthy player on the team (theoretically) and still not be playing individually in a way that's associated with high-level competitiveness in the league.
 
interesting about mckinnie playing with a torn right meniscus...may explain some of the lack of knee bend and lateral/forward movement
 
I didn't catch this.

Did Awsi say he didn't like PFF's rating of RT, but he has been touting shouright using PFF?

:lol:
 
Gravity said:
"Blaming" Tannehill and appraising Tannehill's current level of play as insufficient to make the team highly competitive, while citing the absence of objective evidence that it's attributable to anyone but him, might be two different things.

He could be the least blameworthy player on the team (theoretically) and still not be playing individually in a way that's associated with high-level competitiveness in the league.
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When you find a stat the measures an individual's play, let me know. You haven't found one so far.

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Phinatic8u said:
I didn't catch this.

Did Awsi say he didn't like PFF's rating of RT, but he has been touting shouright using PFF?

:lol:
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Angry Deniers, one and all.....
 
tay0365 said:
Love that comparison, I agree 100%.
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To be fair I think Jay Cutler is a decent quarterback, but if you put a gun to my head and encouraged me to say he was better than Andrew Luck, I still wouldn't do it.
 
FinfanInBuffalo said:
When you find a stat the measures an individual's play, let me know. You haven't found one so far.
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Like I said above and several times previously:

Gravity said:
I'm happy to agree to disagree with anyone who fails to perceive a correlation between YPA and individual QB ability, the inevitable exceptions to the rule notwithstanding.
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SCOTTY said:
I hate all the comments about how well Tannehill did despite the 58 sacks. Yes we had an absolutely aweful line but more than half of those 58 sacks were Hill's fault!
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Sometime I wonder if people are actually watching the games, and if they are, do they really understand what they are looking at.

Yes, Tannehill a few times did hold on longer to the ball then he needed to, and was mainly responsible for those sack , but the huge majority of the time (Probably more then 3/4 of the time), nobody could have reacted well enough to escape being sacked.

When Tannehill was given the average amount of time to get rid of the ball this year, he was consistently good...half the sacks being his fault is way off.
 
tay0365 said:
Sometime I wonder if people are actually watching the games, and if they are, do they really understand what they are looking at.

Yes, Tannehill a few times did hold on longer to the ball then he needed to, and was mainly responsible for those sack , but the huge majority of the time (Probably more then 3/4 of the time), nobody could have reacted well enough to escape being sacked.

When Tannehill was given the average amount of time to get rid of the ball this year, he was consistently good...half the sacks being his fault is way off.
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Well wonder no more. We've done a poll. If the sample was indeed representative of the forum as a whole, apparently everyone here watches the games. ;)
 
Awsi Dooger said:
This is my first venture into the thread. Tannehill at 7th is ridiculous, paramount to worthy of losing your job, if you were responsible for placing him 7th.
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Probably wouldn't be bad enough to lose a job on, considering as has been stated already by dlockz, data are subjective to interpretation and how you manipulate those stats, but you know what could get you fired, continually thinking a young QB to be average or worse, yet continually watching that same QB each year growing and getting better.
 
FinfanInBuffalo said:
Simple questions for the Angry Deniers - Why is Andrew Luck's YPA not an indication that he is not very good? Should Indy fans be as upset by his performance as you seem to be about Tannehill's?
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:oldman: HEY!!! He's Andrew luck.......that's all you need to know. :up:
 
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