PFT: Rams respond to Finnegan's comments

[mega-fin-love]

Finnegan should have kept his damn mouth shut.....Dude is a punk. Bad signing imho

 

[Daytona Fin]

I didn't see too much info on "the surgery". Found these excepts on rotoworld. Apparently Finnegan and Fisher were pretty tight. My guess the claims in the PFT story probably came from former Rams employee.

Cortland Finnegan (fractured orbital bone) is expected to be ready for the Rams' offseason program.
The question is whether Finnegan will still be with the Rams when OTAs begin. Finnegan was among the worst corners in the league last season, and will count $10 million against the cap in 2014. The Rams can clear $9 million in space by designating Finnegan as a post-June 1 cut. Finnegan's close relationship with coach Jeff Fisher means the sides could agree to a restructured contract.

Free agent CB Cortland Finnegan will visit the Dolphins Friday.
Scheduled to count $10 million against the cap, Finnegan was released by the Rams last week. Considering his relationship with coach Jeff Fisher, it was a bad sign. Finnegan is ill-suited to be a starter opposite Brent Grimes at age 30.

http://www.rotoworld.com/recent/nfl/4035/cortland-finnegan

 

[dlockz]

I'm not convinced it was only about what happened on the field.
you don't think it had anything to do with the $3 million roster bonus they would have owed him 2 days later? how about the $23 million in cap relief?
also, I believe Jeff Fisher indicated at the time that they would have liked to bring him back if possible.

Finnagan has been horrible two seasons in a row, if he made any decent money at all he was going to be cut.

 

[Zounds]

The Rams had some terrible safety play....and when you ask your CBs to play the run like the Rams did, you need good coverage safeties, which they didnt have. I'd have to agree with Finnegan's comments about poor scheme in that secondary.

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Finnagan has been horrible two seasons in a row, if he made any decent money at all he was going to be cut.

How was he horrible in 2012??

 

[rent this space]

The Rams had some terrible safety play....and when you ask your CBs to play the run like the Rams did, you need good coverage safeties, which they didnt have. I'd have to agree with Finnegan's comments about poor scheme in that secondary.

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How was he horrible in 2012??

if it's true that Fisher had to take over the defense during the season it would validate Finnegan's comments
also, I agree on 2012. 101 tackles, 3 INT's and a sack isn't horrible by any stretch

 

[Built2Win]

Let your play do the talking Finnigan! Rams can eat a d.

 

[Zounds]

FWIW, Finnegen played 367 snaps last year and PFF had him at #109 of 110 CB's and NFL had the same. In 2012, he played 1031 snaps, ranked #86 by PFF and around the same by NFL. PFF just grades on individual play, if you win or lose in coverage or run support, and he was bad in both for the last 2 years.

Just like how PFF had Tyson Clabo as the #5 best ranked RT in the NFL when he signed with the Dolphins. :m359:

 

[hoops]

i lean towards the orbital bone thing being a crutch also...it came across as a lot of excuses and passing the buck to me with what finnegan said about the rams...just shocked a guy still in the league but at the tail end of his career would say something like that...don't think other teams forget comments like that when it comes time to consider a guy as a stop gap option...it doesn't help him

 

[Zounds]

This quote pretty much reinforces what Ive been saying about the Rams' secondary last year:

One NFC front office executive said Finnegan has a good chance to rejuvenate his career here partly because he wasn't properly used by former Rams defensive coordinator Tim Walton, the ex-UM coordinator who was fired by the Rams after last season.

Read more here: http://miamiherald.typepad.com/spor...phins-heat-marlins-chatter.html#storylink=cpy

 

[Zounds]

i lean towards the orbital bone thing being a crutch also...it came across as a lot of excuses and passing the buck to me with what finnegan said about the rams...

I'd say it was the hamstring more than the orbital. That's the worst kind of injury a CB can have.

But yes, he probably shouldn't have called his previous DC "atrocious", although that DC was fired and Finnegan was probably correct in his assessment, he still needs to keep his mouth shut.

 

[So Be]

Just like how PFF had Tyson Clabo as the #5 best ranked RT in the NFL when he signed with the Dolphins. :m359:

PFF grades and ranks around 1500 NFL players a year, and you keep coming back to Clabo. Here's their top 5 RT's from 2012 with sacks and hits (all fact).

Andre Smith- 7 sacks, 2 hits

Cherilus- 4 and 7

Anthony Davis- 8 and 4

Vollmer- 6 and 7

Clabo- 5 and 7

Only Cherilus had more pass protect chances.

Which RT was better and Why?

 

[hoops]

the safety play with the rams being horrid makes absolute sense both their safeties are poor but they seem to like that one kid from usc for some reason but if you are one of those people that think miami needs not one but 2 new starting safeties sooner rather than later i don't know how it should make anyone feel better about things for us...

the rams lb play and pass rush though is better than miamis and janoris jenkins at corner is pretty darn good when he doesnt pull a terrell buckley and guess so finnegans numbers with the rams the last 2 years are worrisome...

the ota reports were good though...i'm more interested though in jamar taylor stepping up and playing a top 2 level corner for the long term...not stop gaps

 

[Zounds]

PFF grades and ranks around 1500 NFL players a year, and you keep coming back to Clabo. Here's their top 5 RT's from 2012 with sacks and hits (all fact).

Andre Smith- 7 sacks, 2 hits

Cherilus- 4 and 7

Anthony Davis- 8 and 4

Vollmer- 6 and 7

Clabo- 5 and 7

Only Cherilus had more pass protect chances.

Which RT was better and Why?

Is there a point you are trying to make? Maybe I missed it, please elaborate.

Like I said, you keep going back to PFF like its some measuring stick as to how a player will perform, while PFF completely disregards other important circumstances. I stand by my statement.

 

[So Be]

the safety play with the rams being horrid makes absolute sense both their safeties are poor but they seem to like that one kid from usc for some reason but if you are one of those people that think miami needs not one but 2 new starting safeties sooner rather than later i don't know how it should make anyone feel better about things for us...

the rams lb play and pass rush though is better than miamis and janoris jenkins at corner is pretty darn good when he doesnt pull a terrell buckley and guess so finnegans numbers with the rams the last 2 years are worrisome...

the ota reports were good though...i'm more interested though in jamar taylor stepping up and playing a top 2 level corner for the long term...not stop gaps

We both had Taylor starting at some point last year before injuries killed any chance. Think he will start this year? I give him the edge over Finnegen.

 

[Zounds]

the safety play with the rams being horrid makes absolute sense both their safeties are poor but they seem to like that one kid from usc for some reason but if you are one of those people that think miami needs not one but 2 new starting safeties sooner rather than later i don't know how it should make anyone feel better about things for us...

I'm one of the guys who thinks we need 2 new safeties (Delmas doesnt have much left in those knees and Jones thinks he's a LB), but I dont think our safeties will effect Finnegan like the Ram's safeties did because we don't play the same kind of defensive scheme the Rams played.