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PFT: Tannehill gearing up for a holdout?

Mark Barron the #7 overall pick just signed a contract fully guaranteed with NO offset language. That means #7 overall and #9 overall both had fully guaranteed no offset contracts. If Miami insists on the offset language and a holdout ensues, the Dolphins and Jeff Ireland will be heavily criticized on that basis...and they'd deserve it.
There is a leverage difference here though. The Bucs with Barron and Panthers with Kuechly need their guys in camp because they are going to be starters and thus needed to get the deals done. With Tannehill looking like he's due to sit for at least the first half of the season, we don't have that need to get him into camp so badly. Hence we can hold firmer.

Although, personally I think it'll get done without the clause close to camp. With most of the rest of the top 10 signing without it, i think we'll have to fall in line, and whilst Tannehill may sit, we do still need to see his capabilities.
 
Some idle speculation here. Just dealing with the insomnia, so I'll throw this up for discussion:

Is Ireland evaluating what he's seen of Tannehill thus far? I know that camp hasn't even started yet, but it seems from reports of OTAs that so far (ridiculously early as it is), Tannehill hasn't shown that he should have been drafted #8 overall, or that his knowledge of the system from A&M is going to be a factor. Could seem to Ireland that the club is going to have to pay Tannehill quite a bit of money to sit on the bench behind two at best mediocre QBs, while people like Flacco started immediately. Far short of Marino, Tannehill may turn out not to even be Flacco.

Are we beginning to see a bit of buyer's remorse on the part of Ireland? Is he thinking that maybe he whiffed on Tannehill and he needs to start thinking about recovering some of the guaranteed money if they have to give up on him? Does he think Tannehill is in a weak negotiating position, and may accept the language, based on what he's (not) shown so far?

Don't get me wrong. I hope that Tannehill tears up the league. Just thinking that Ireland may be a bit touchy about striking out on Marino's replacement yet again, and doesn't want to have the dead cap space from the failure when he has to try again (assuming he's still around). Or it could have nothing to do with it. The offset may indeed be a concept the league wants introduced into guaranteed contracts.

Not that the language is such an outrageous concept, either. We're committing to pay Tannehill all these millions, regardless of how he actually performs. That's what "guaranteed" means. Say, for example, that the guaranteed amount were four million in his fourth year. If he doesn't work out; in fact, if he stinks it up, and we have to cut him at the end of the third year, we will have failed again at getting a franchise QB and still have to pay him the guaranteed four million after he's gone.

Now say he signs up with another team, which also agrees to pay him four million. He would end up with our four million and the new club's four million in his pocket for the fourth year, while the club gets nothing but dead cap space for its last four million..

The offset language allows the club to set what the new club pays Tannehill off against our guaranteed obligation. If Tannehill makes at least the same four million with the new team, he doesn't get to double-dip, and we're off the hook for that last four million.

It's an attempt to re-introduce accountability for a player's performance into the guaranteed money; or in other words, to condition the back end of the guarantee on his performing well. I can sympathize with the club, but the end result is that the last year is no longer really guaranteed, and Tannehill is probably not going to be the first to accept it. It could get ugly.
No, he has no buyer's remorse, especially not only three months after drafting him and before any training camp practices. What they are trying to do is something every team in the league would like to do. Every other team failed and the Dolphins and Vikings seem to be the last two teams that haven't given in, yet. Has nothing to do with Ireland regretting picking him.
 
Mark Barron the #7 overall pick just signed a contract fully guaranteed with NO offset language. That means #7 overall and #9 overall both had fully guaranteed no offset contracts. If Miami insists on the offset language and a holdout ensues, the Dolphins and Jeff Ireland will be heavily criticized on that basis...and they'd deserve it.

agreed...there's no point in this...
 
That would be nice. All of this is just talk until there's actually a holdout.

As for all these teams "wishing they were us" if Tannehill caves...doubtful. People need to grasp just how MINOR this offset language stuff really is. It will maybe save the Dolphins $500k in the 4th year if Ryan Tannehill is a total bust and they cut him.
 
yeah under this new cba there's really nothing to gain here...just more bad press that will come miamis way from the media...which some of you guys seem to really get hot under the collar about...
 
hard knocks will also grab hold of it if it last into camp...if the guys tiered around you ie in front of and behind you don't have it in their contracts there's no reason miami should be playing hard ball here...like ck said its not enough money under this cba to make it worth it...
 
why are we insisting on language to financially protect us if we RELEASE our "future QB"? A number 8 overall pick. I would think he would be here for his four year contract (as Henne was), and if he doesn't succeed we'd part ways. If we were going to go in a different direction before that time, I would hope they wouldn't CUT a number 8 overall selection. At least get some sort of draft picks back for him. Really don't understand the "offset language".
 
That would be nice. All of this is just talk until there's actually a holdout.

As for all these teams "wishing they were us" if Tannehill caves...doubtful. People need to grasp just how MINOR this offset language stuff really is. It will maybe save the Dolphins $500k in the 4th year if Ryan Tannehill is a total bust and they cut him.

it's sad that we've been conditioned to think of 500k as such a small number in football terms :( i wouldnt mind a piece of that pie.
 
it's sad that we've been conditioned to think of 500k as such a small number in football terms :( i wouldnt mind a piece of that pie.

Hah, I know. What bugs me sometimes is the ones that collect that kind of money to go out there and clearly just be really bad at what they do for a living. That's when you're like, crap if you need a bad football player give me a few hundred grand.
 
Why play hardball with a guy that you consider your "future" at the position? Not really showing confidence there.

Still, I won't hold it against Ireland. IIWII.
 
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