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Philbin was right to run out the clock at the end of the half.....

I agree. In a Fury of Anti Revenge first half too many things can and do go wrong. The shift to second half intensity level is monstrous, and as always we were getting the ball to start the second half. I was thinking 9-0 is perfect, not too much to overcome. Underdog, sure, but maybe 25-30% chance to pull it out.

BTW, I prefer Bar Stool to Arm Chair. Try to work on that. They share the same meaning but apparently the Bar Stool tag is more annoying. I remember Joe Jares teaching the USC sportswriting class emphasizing that every word is crucial. If they feel harmed by Bar Stool, go with Bar Stool.
 
Nothing against the OP but I disagree completely.

I can understand as a HC calling one or two run plays to see if you can gather some positive yardage, and get yourself a little further away from your own end zone. Once you get a first down running the ball with 2 timeouts, you let it rip. We have the best deep threat in the NFL, and a QB who has a cannon, and has shown consistent excellence in performing a 2 minute offense. Even a FIELD GOAL makes a world of difference in that situation. IN NO WAY, was that the right call. AT THE VERY LEAST, you go for a field goal. It was a dumb call by an old man joe phiblin who was trying to punish his offense for performing poorly. Absolutely atrocious decision.
 
If you believe in playing it close to the vest then you'll agree it's the right call. However, when you're offense is stumbling in enemy territory and you can try and change the tempo and create momentum going in to the break, you go for it. You hope that Philbin didn't cast a shadow of doubt in that locker room.

I didn't like the decision but I understand it.
 
i think it sends the wrong message to your players personally...not a fan myself...maybe if i thought my qb would screw it up...but i don't think that of this qb so i can't get down with it

but if philbin had concerns about the right guard getting abused and more points for the opposition as a result i can't say i blame him for that...
 
The problem is Philbin. Not Tannehill. Tannehill is learning and I won't judge him 2 games. Ok, From the looks I see mediocre QB. Just hope we can beat KC and the Raiders. Then the showdown is Green Bay in our House. That will tell me if we are real or not. No need to lose to KC at home and Raiders the following weak. I'll explode.
 
It was probably one of those 50/50 coin flip deals with about 3 points of value up for grabs for either team. I wouldn't be surprised if you worked out the math that it was closer to being worth 3 points for the Bills and 2 points for us though. I'm sure thats what Philbins instincts were, that it was negative expected value for our team at that time.

Marrone is the one that should have went for the jugular and started using his timeouts to get the ball back. It would have been really interesting to see what we would have done in response.

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Daytona Fin said:
Can't remember a time that I have seen a trailing team not go for it with that much time left.
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I can't remember a team having 25 yards of total offense with a net of 7 passing yards in a half before...
 
gfish24 said:
and get into the locker room, regroup and make some adjustments
- our line was getting beat badly at that point
- Its not popular decision but it was the right one and they moved the ball at start the second half.

- All you arm chair QBs would be complaining either way if things went wrong- if Tannehill is sacked, throws a pick or is stripped of the ball, or its 3 quick incomplete passes and forced to punt, bills get the ball back an score you guys would be complaining about that coaching strategy
- Also I don't believe Lazor's read option on 4th and short was a bad call. QB had some open field,bills SS just made a great play- again if that worked people would be talkin about the great call on 4th down
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Let me add because the one thing THill is good at is running the two minute offense. Coach quit there
 
kingfin23 said:
The problem is Philbin. Not Tannehill. Tannehill is learning and I won't judge him 2 games. Ok, From the looks I see mediocre QB. Just hope we can beat KC and the Raiders. Then the showdown is Green Bay in our House. That will tell me if we are real or not. No need to lose to KC at home and Raiders the following weak. I'll explode.
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Pleassssse. 34 games. Can we just stop toddling and coddling him? :crazy:

This level of excuses I have never ever seen. Not even during the Fiedler years.
 
I bitched about this call as well. But when it comes down to it the coaching staff just didn't trust their franchise QB to turn the momentum. Going down the field and scoring at least 3 points, getting the ball back and scoring again could have been a huge turn of events.

No matter how crappy the first half was coaches love to give the ball to their franchise QBs - if they trust them enough.
 
60 minutes of football

I want my team to play hard for the entire game. Wasting a possession through a mistake while giving effort is one thing. Wasting a possession by giving up is quite another. If you take a sack, or throw an int, or have to punt, so be it. If you lose by 1, or by 19, or by 29 doesn't matter! At least try to win! Make an effort! Laying down at the end of the first half is something that should embarrass every single person in this organization.
 
You definitely go for points after gaining some yardage. Field goal there and td after half and you played like crap but would gave the lead
 
While I can see a case for both sides here, I will never ever understand why coaches punt late in the game to avoid a worse defeat when you still have an outside chance to pull something off. Atlanta, down by 14 with 4 minutes left punted from their own 25 on 4th and 7. You have nothing to lose by going for that. This really drives me crazy.
 
DeathStar said:
A losing mentality from a mediocre head coach.
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This. And to the OP who said we'd complain anyway if the offense didn't move the ball- yeah, I would've been complaining about the players not ****ing executing, and rightfully so... I wouldn't, however, be complaining about my head coach being a gutless douche who plays not to lose.
 
Like others have expressed I understand the strategy and even though it worked out I, too, think it was the wrong approach; especially after gaining some yards. The offense had to be dejected knowing their coach did not have enough faith that they could get a score. The Bills must have been elated. How many teams would tank it with that much time and 4 opportunities to stop the clock?
 
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