Players WITH & WITHOUT Tannehill

[SkapePhin]

Seeing Charles Clay drop balls left and right last night, I got to thinking about players who played with Tannehill in Miami and how they played after leaving. Could Tannehill be actually elevating players level of play?

Davone Bess
With Tannehill: 13 Games, 61 Receptions, 778 Yards, 12.8 Y/R, 1 TD, 59.8 Yards Per Game, 58.7% Catch %
After Tannehill: 14 Games, 42 Receptions, 362 Yards, 8.6 Y/R, 2 TDs, 25.9 Yards Per Game, 48.8% Catch %, out of the league, and into the loony bin the next year

Brian Hartline

					Game		Rece									Rush
Year	Age	Tm	Pos	No.	G	GS	Tgt	Rec	Yds	Y/R	TD	Lng	R/G	Y/G	Ctch%	Rush	Yds	TD	Lng	Y/A	Y/G	A/G	YScm	RRTD	Fmb	AV
2012	26	MIA	WR	82	16	15	131	74	1083	14.6	1	80	4.6	67.7	56.5%								1083	1	1	8
2013	27	MIA	WR	82	16	15	133	76	1016	13.4	4	50	4.8	63.5	57.1%								1016	4	0	7
2014	28	MIA	WR	82	16	16	63	39	474	12.2	2	35	2.4	29.6	61.9%								474	2	0	4
2015	29	CLE	wr	83	12	4	77	46	523	11.4	2	41	3.8	43.6	59.7%								523	2	1	3

Also out of the league after one year with Cleveland.


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Mike Wallace

					Game		Rece									Rush
Year	Age	Tm	Pos	No.	G	GS	Tgt	Rec	Yds	Y/R	TD	Lng	R/G	Y/G	Ctch%	Rush	Yds	TD	Lng	Y/A	Y/G	A/G	YScm	RRTD	Fmb	AV
2013	27	MIA	WR	11	16	16	141	73	930	12.7	5	57	4.6	58.1	51.8%	3	33	0	13	11.0	2.1	0.2	963	5	0	7
2014	28	MIA	WR	11	16	16	115	67	862	12.9	10	50	4.2	53.9	58.3%	4	16	0	12	4.0	1.0	0.3	878	10	2	8
2015	29	MIN	WR	11	16	12	72	39	473	12.1	2	34	2.4	29.6	54.2%	1	6	0	6	6.0	0.4	0.1	479	2	0	5
2016	30	BAL	wr	12	1	1	6	3	91	30.3	1	66	3.0	91.0	50.0%	1	11	0	11	11.0	11.0	1.0	102	1	0

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Charles Clay

					Game		Rece									Rush
Year	Age	Tm	Pos	No.	G	GS	Tgt	Rec	Yds	Y/R	TD	Lng	R/G	Y/G	Ctch%	Rush	Yds	TD	Lng	Y/A	Y/G	A/G	YScm	RRTD	Fmb	AV
2012	23	MIA	FB/te	42	14	9	33	18	212	11.8	2	31	1.3	15.1	54.5%								212	2	0	2
2013	24	MIA	TE	42	16	15	102	69	759	11.0	6	67	4.3	47.4	67.6%	7	15	1	13	2.1	0.9	0.4	774	7	0	5
2014	25	MIA	TE	42	14	14	84	58	605	10.4	3	41	4.1	43.2	69.0%								605	3	0	5
2015	26	BUF	TE	85	13	13	77	51	528	10.4	3	40	3.9	40.6	66.2%								528	3	1	5
2016	27	BUF	te	85	2	2	10	7	67	9.6	0	33	3.5	33.5	70.0%								67	0	0

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Brandon Gibson

					Game		Rece									Rush
Year	Age	Tm	Pos	No.	G	GS	Tgt	Rec	Yds	Y/R	TD	Lng	R/G	Y/G	Ctch%	Rush	Yds	TD	Lng	Y/A	Y/G	A/G	YScm	RRTD	Fmb	AV
2013	26	MIA	wr	10	7	3	43	30	326	10.9	3	46	4.3	46.6	69.8%								326	3	0	2
2014	27	MIA	wr	10	14	5	51	29	295	10.2	1	40	2.1	21.1	56.9%								295	1	2	3

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Out of the league after injury in NE.


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Anthony Fasano

					Game		Rece									Rush
Year	Age	Tm	Pos	No.	G	GS	Tgt	Rec	Yds	Y/R	TD	Lng	R/G	Y/G	Ctch%	Rush	Yds	TD	Lng	Y/A	Y/G	A/G	YScm	RRTD	Fmb	AV
2012	28	MIA	TE	80	16	16	69	41	332	8.1	5	22	2.6	20.8	59.4%								332	5	0	3
2013	29	KAN	TE	80	9	9	33	23	200	8.7	3	20	2.6	22.2	69.7%								200	3	0	2
2014	30	KAN	TE	80	15	13	36	25	226	9.0	4	22	1.7	15.1	69.4%								226	4	0	2
2015	31	TEN	TE	80	16	11	42	26	289	11.1	2	33	1.6	18.1	61.9%								289	2	0	2
2016	32	TEN		80	1	0	0	0	0		0	0	0.0	0.0	0.0%								0	0	0

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Pretty much all of these players had a significant decline in play after leaving Miami. Coincidence?

 

[Travis34]

"He doesn't make anyone around him better"

 

[ChrisTRD]

Tannehill sucks, cut him today. Let's roll with with whoever is the best FA out there right now.

To be fair, most of those guys were higher than they should have been. Brian Hartline should have NEVER been a #1 WR on any NFL team.

 

[Butterfrog 2.0]

It was because the unit as a whole was terrible. We had a bunch of below average players playing prominent roles because they were the best pieces of garbage that we had.

 

[nyjunc]

so you didn't see Wallace's long TD the other day?

Wallace was better pre Tannehill and we'll see what happens w/ Flacco
Clay was the same w/ and w/o
Hartline basically the same

others that have come here have seen their production dip from other places.

 

[LDaniel7]

Man, did I ever get hated on here for a couple years for calling out the *talent* of Miami's WRs, including Hartline and Bess -- calling it what it was.

Now I get hated supported RT17, lol.

I was right then. And I'm right now. Same group of fools who saw Hartline and Bess as legit 1s and 2s are the same ones generally who hate on RT. Some people just don't know football. They are #lowenergy and #lowfootballIQ fans.

You'd think they'd learn from past mistakes though. After being proven so wrong so many times, lol.

LD

 

[Daytona Fin]

Only one I miss is Fasano.

 

[nyjunc]

Only one I miss is Fasano.

why did you guys let him go?

 

[Daytona Fin]

why did you guys let him go?

Chiefs opened up their checkbook, we thought Clay was the answer.

 

[Avigatorx]

Its an argument that looks good on paper, taking the stats in a vacuum.

But having seen the games and watched the issues first hand, I can't agree with it. Posters above are right, our receivers were just not good enough to play for other teams, and Tanny wasnt helping them out with his off-target throws.

He has improved, and he looks alot better so far, but its only been one real game in the new system. Let's see where he stands after a few more games.

 

[Daytona Fin]

so you didn't see Wallace's long TD the other day?

Wallace was better pre Tannehill and we'll see what happens w/ Flacco

Now watch him disappear

 

[Avigatorx]

why did you guys let him go?

Good question.

Alot of fans were down on him for some drops in key situations. Everyone wanted him to be the next Tony Gonzalez, something he was never going to be.

 

[psfign]

so you didn't see Wallace's long TD the other day?

Wallace was better pre Tannehill and we'll see what happens w/ Flacco
Clay was the same w/ and w/o
Hartline basically the same

others that have come here have seen their production dip from other places.

Cool, one play in 3 years. Guess he's a TOP WR again, huh?

And again, I notice the minute War goes offline, junc comes online. Hrrmm

 

[Avigatorx]

cool, one play in 3 years. Guess he's a top wr again, huh?

and again, i notice the minute war goes offline, junc comes online. Hrrmm

lol!

 

[SCLSU Mud Dogs]

so you didn't see Wallace's long TD the other day?

Wallace was better pre Tannehill and we'll see what happens w/ Flacco
Clay was the same w/ and w/o
Hartline basically the same

others that have come here have seen their production dip from other places.

So one long touchdown from Flacco to Wallace means Wallace is better with Flacco?

Also, Clay was most definitely better here than in Buffalo.