Poor AJ Feeley, Cant even open a Maxim Magazine without getting dissed...

[djfresh47]

LAST YEAR.. With the same players, same team.. Feeley had a better record.. Care to dispute that?

AJ had more wins, but he beat Cleveland/SF for 2 of his 3 victories. He played well against New England, but i'm not gonna give a guy credit for beating the only 2 teams in the league that were worse than the Phins IMO.

 

[TRUDOLFAN54]

How do you know how high AJ's ceiling is? Joe Montana did not exactly have the most physical tools in the world, but he did pretty good for himself (Before anyone jumps on this...NO!! in no way am i comparing Montana to AJ)

To be fair, your starting QB could end up being worse the AJ. Losman did not exactly light the NFL on fire last year when given a chance to show what he could do. Lets all wait and see how AJ does with an improved O-line (Even if it is only slightly improved), a running game, and an O-coordinator that knows what he is doing.

great point man i really think that feeley will do better than losman this year write it down you heard it here first. :D

 

[enigmatics]

Bottom line AJ better than Losman last year. Leave it to Bills fans to make excuses. WAAAAAAAAAAAAAH. Now repeat after me . "Wide Right"





There he stood, waiting for the snap. Hundreds of millions were watching across the globe. In the Tampa Stadium, 73,813 fans were holding their breaths in silence. The ball was snapped and Scott Norwood made his approach to what was going to be the most famous field goal attempt in history.

The ball was caught and put down properly by holder Frank Reich and the stage was set. Norwood kicked the ball and followed through, watching the ball sail into the air and towards the goal posts. For eternity, the ball inched closer and closer to the posts, and it appeared to be starting the usual curve that would make it good. When the ball was just about to reach the posts, it straightened out and........

There wasn't the usual two week break before the Super Bowl during the 1990 season. After the Bills won the AFC title by blasting the Los Angeles Raiders 51-3, they had only the one week to prepare for the most glorified championship game of all sports. Being their first trip to the Big Dance, they were in awe of the spectacle of the Super Bowl and may have partied a little too much. The New York Giants were the NFC champs and the Bills were actually favored in this one. Their "No Huddle Attack" was the main weapon that the Giants had to neutralize. Giant Coach Bill Parcells worked overtime during the Super Bowl week to devise some kind of plan to stop the Bills overpowering offense. As it turned out, Parcells game plan worked to perfection.

With the Bills trailing by a single point and the clock running out, the Bills tried in desperation to come back into field goal range. The Bills got the ball with 2:16 remaining on their own 10.

"We knew we had one timeout left," quarterback Jim Kelly said. "We came out and I told the guys, ‘Hey, this is what champions are made of. Let's play like it: let's be one."

"I had to run the ball a couple times and I didn't want to, but our goal was to get to the 30. We got there and it wasn't meant to be."

Thurman Thomas battled for 11 yards and got to the Giant 29 with only 40 seconds remaining. Kelly then failed to hit receiver Andre Reed and the Bills had to line up for a field goal with only four seconds remaining.

....and the kick is up and it is.........WIDE RIGHT! The Giants beat the Bills 20-19 in the closest and most exciting Super Bowl in history.

Holder and reserve quarterback Frank Reich said, "He absolutely crushed the ball. That kick probably would have been good from about 55 to 58 yards. I'm sure he was thinking it was probably going to come in a little bit. But it just stayed straight. Usually, with a soccer-style kicker, you plan on the ball coming in a little bit."

For the Giants to beat the Bills vaulted No Huddle, Parcells devised a plan of ball control and limiting the time the Bills had the ball. Ball control was the name of the game and the Giants offense had the ball for 40 minutes, and 33 seconds in this Super Bowl XXV. This broke a record for time of possession in the SB. For a period of 13 straight minutes, beginning near the end of the first half and continuing into the second half for 9 ½ minutes, the Giants rammed the ball down the Bills throats. If you include the 25-minutes for halftime, the Bills offense didn't take the field for a stretch of over an hour.

"Our whole plan was to try to shorten the game for Buffalo," Parcells said after the game. "We wanted the ball and we didn't want them to have it. That was our whole plan. I thought if we did that, we'd have a shot to win and we did."

With 3:49 remaining in the first half, the Giants put on a dominating and relenting offensive performance that crushed the Bills. On the Giants four possessions starting at this point, they rushed for 259 yards and scored 17 points. So, with 3:49 remaining in the first half , and the Giants down 12-3, they started a drive that would put Buffalo to a slow death. The Giants had the ball on their own 13 and in just four plays, the Giants moved the ball downfield 62 yards. This included a 18-yard run by Otis Anderson. Jeff Hostler passed to Stephen Baker at the end of the drive for 14 yards and a TD. "As the game progressed, the Giants' strategy kept looking more and more effective," Kelly said. "Their best offense was also their best defense; they just stuck to the idea of running the ball down our throats all night and they never gave us a chance to score. When we finally did set foot on the field, it was with too much of a sense of urgency and we didn't execute as well as we were capable of. Moving fast in the no-huddle is one thing, but when you become as reckless as we were starting to become, you're not going anywhere. I was so caught up in trying to get us a fast score, I forgot to work the right combination of pass and run plays that kept defenses off balance and had gotten us to Tampa in the first place. I just kept looking for the home-run ball, and that's usually when a quarterback begins hurting his performance."



At the start of the second half, New York received the ball and didn't kick it back to Buffalo until they had run 9 ½ minutes off the clock and scored a touchdown.

"We told ourselves we had to make plays to keep our defense off the field and to just keep going at them," Baker said. "We did a great job of mixing up the run and the pass. And once we established that running game, it was real hard for them to stop the clock. We ate that up pretty good."

"Counting what they used on the scoring drive just before intermission, I had spent a grand total of 12:58 watching from the sidelinesâ€â€and a hell of a lot longer doing nothing when you factored in the extra time for Disney's big halftime show," Kelly said in his book Armed and Dangerous.</B>

"It was torture," Kelly continued. "I mean, I had to start throwing passes on the sidelines just to keep my arm from getting stiff."

Giants running back Ottis Anderson got the Pete Rozelle Award as the game's MVP. He ran for 102 yards on 21 carries and scored a touchdown. Jeff Hostetler also played a major role at quarterback for the Giants. He hit on 20 of his 32 passes for 222 yards.

With the Giants up 17-12 and driving again, Bruce Smith caught Anderson for a loss when the Giants were gambling on a fourth down and two. When the Bills took over, they scored in just four plays as Thomas zipped up the right side, broke a tackle and rambled 31 yards for a touchdown. Thomas ended the game with 135 yards on 15 rushes. He also caught 5 passes for 55 yards.

The Giants drove down to the Bills three yard line, but couldn't ram it in. So Matt Bahr connected for his second field goal of the game to finish off the scoring of the game at 20-19.

Bahr had opened the scoring in this exciting contest when he drilled a 28-yarder on the Giants opening series to make it 3-0. The Bills came back when James Lofton caught a long bomb from Kelly after Perry Williams deflected the pass. Lofton turned the play into a 61-yard gainer and was brought down at the New York 8 yard line. However, the Giants defense stiffened and Norwood had to kick a 23-yarder to tie it up.

When the Bills got the ball again, they drove 80 yards on 12 plays to take the lead. Andre Reed made 4 grabs fro 44 yards and Don Smith punched it in from the one yard line and the Bills had a 10-3 lead. Bruce Smith tackled Hostetler for a safety in the end zone when he tripped over Anderson, and the Bills had the biggest lead in the game when they led 12-3.

But that's when the Giants ball control game took over. The Bills never saw the ball again for another hour.

When the Bills had the ball on their own 10 yard line with 2:16 left to go, it looked promising. As the Bills were the 2-minute drill champions, this should be a piece of cake. Jim Kelly was a master of running the no-huddle and chipping away at the yardage, moving the club down the field. But this was going to be a different scenario. The Bills didn't run the clock as efficiently as they had all season. Kelly wasted time by running a couple of times when he should have thrown the ball away. Three times Kelly decided to run with the ball when the Giants had receivers covered. After Kelly ran for 8 yards, the Bills had to use their final time out with 48 seconds remaining. Thomas then ran the ball to the Giants 29 and Kelly, with only 8 seconds remaining, had to spike the ball to stop the clock. The Giants called a timeout to make Norwood think a little more about the importance of his next kick.

"During the time out, I was flooding my mind with positive thoughts," Norwood reflected. "I don't back away from that type of kick. It's something I've done all my career."

And now there stood Norwood, awaiting his fate. It was a fate that would haunt him for the rest of his days. When he kicked it, he stood there watching the ball sail towards the goal posts. When it missed by two feet to the right, Norwood's head dropped like a lead balloon.

"I knew it was a long kick. I may have tried to emphasize a little too much getting lot of leg into it," Scott said after the game. "I'm sure it will never got to a point where I'll ever forget it." "In my thinking, I may have put a little bit too much emphasis on striking the ball good and hard, and may have taken a little bit away from my follow-through and bringing the ball in from that upright. It just stayed out right. I did hit it good and solid. But I didn't get my draw on it. Maybe a bit more of a follow-through would have helped that kick. But unfortunately, you don't get two swings of the leg. You don't get a second chance in that situation."

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.............and the relevance of this post was???

 

[RWhitney014]

LAST YEAR.. With the same players, same team.. Feeley had a better record.. Care to dispute that?

Skape, you know someone will. Kinda pathetic, but true. And almost everyone hated Fiedler.

 

[County Of Dade]

Let 'em hate

Screw Maxim, that magazine is written by girls who think they understand men. Certainly no one who has ever actually played football. Its the type of magazine that Jets and Pats fans read.

As for Feeley, let people talk smack about him. I've been hearing it non-stop from the Eagles fans that I unfortuneatly am acquainted with. Hes basically never had meaningful playing time until last year, and considering the O-line and running game he had to work with, I think he did a pretty damn good job. I have a ton of faith that if we have patience with him, and the O-line starts to gel, he will have a very good season in '05.

 

[Disnardo]

He was the worst QB last year...

I know there were a lot of circumstances that may have dropped hims numbers.. But if you look at the list of QB ratings, he was at the bottom. Below Krenzel, Dorsey, and other horrible QB's

He will probably improve in real life and madden if the running game comes through...

I just don't know that Feeley has a very high ceiling of improvment.

I don't know if this post has been answered, I apologized for that.

Sorry to disagree with you Losman, but Krenzel's QBR of 52 is not hire than AJ's 61, and Dorsey is only 0.70 higher than AJ, not much of a difference between these last 2 other than the Suppport and Performance of the team mates around them...

Let's compare the 8 games that Dorsey started and AJ started last year...

1- San Fran had a good running game compared to Miami. SF avg 104 yds per game compared to Miami's 62 yds per game. In the 8 games, SF produced 2/3 (331 yds) more yards than Miami did in its eight.
2- Miamis running game amassed more than 60 yards only twice in these eight games. I believe the avg yds per game a RB needs to reach 1000 yds in a season is 63 yds.
3-SF was better also in TOP, averaging 29 mins per game, compared to Miami's subpar 27 mins per game.
4- SF's OL gave up only 17 sacks, compared to Miami's 21
5- SF's Defensive unit was even better than Miami's against the run in these 8 games. SF avg 111 yds per game compared to Miami's 124 yds per game.
6- Both teams played against 4 TOP 10 Defenses ranked against the run.

So you see, the comparison shows that even though Dorsey had better team execution than AJ had with Miami, Dorsey still won only one game. I wonder why?

Why do you think Jay F won so many games when the team performed, and looked really bad when he did not get supporting performance like last year?

You think P. Manning or T. Brady would have had a decent year with last year's Miami team? Look at what happend to Brady in Miami's win last year, when our Defense was all over him. Our Defense made him make stupid mistakes, and Brady rarely makes mistakes.

Seems like the same mistakes that AJ made last year, when opposing Defenses where in the backfield while dropping back from center.

Now to answer the thread, AJ will have to prove the naysayers wrong...

 

[Phishstix]

Let's compare the 8 games that Dorsey started and AJ started last year...

1- San Fran had a good running game compared to Miami. SF avg 104 yds per game compared to Miami's 62 yds per game. In the 8 games, SF produced 2/3 (331 yds) more yards than Miami did in its eight.
2- Miamis running game amassed more than 60 yards only twice in these eight games. I believe the avg yds per game a RB needs to reach 1000 yds in a season is 63 yds.
3-SF was better also in TOP, averaging 29 mins per game, compared to Miami's subpar 27 mins per game.
4- SF's OL gave up only 17 sacks, compared to Miami's 21
5- SF's Defensive unit was even better than Miami's against the run in these 8 games. SF avg 111 yds per game compared to Miami's 124 yds per game.
6- Both teams played against 4 TOP 10 Defenses ranked against the run.

So you see, the comparison shows that even though Dorsey had better team execution than AJ had with Miami, Dorsey still won only one game. I wonder why?

why are you comparing feeley to dorsey? dorsey was san fran's backup and wasn't expected to get extensive p.t. feeley was brought in to start, so shouldn't a guy expected to start perform better than a back-up for two comparable teams?

 

[Dudeman]

I don't know if this post has been answered, I apologized for that.

Sorry to disagree with you Losman, but Krenzel's QBR of 52 is not hire than AJ's 61, and Dorsey is only 0.70 higher than AJ, not much of a difference between these last 2 other than the Suppport and Performance of the team mates around them...

Let's compare the 8 games that Dorsey started and AJ started last year...

1- San Fran had a good running game compared to Miami. SF avg 104 yds per game compared to Miami's 62 yds per game. In the 8 games, SF produced 2/3 (331 yds) more yards than Miami did in its eight.
2- Miamis running game amassed more than 60 yards only twice in these eight games. I believe the avg yds per game a RB needs to reach 1000 yds in a season is 63 yds.
3-SF was better also in TOP, averaging 29 mins per game, compared to Miami's subpar 27 mins per game.
4- SF's OL gave up only 17 sacks, compared to Miami's 21
5- SF's Defensive unit was even better than Miami's against the run in these 8 games. SF avg 111 yds per game compared to Miami's 124 yds per game.
6- Both teams played against 4 TOP 10 Defenses ranked against the run.

So you see, the comparison shows that even though Dorsey had better team execution than AJ had with Miami, Dorsey still won only one game. I wonder why?

Why do you think Jay F won so many games when the team performed, and looked really bad when he did not get supporting performance like last year?

You think P. Manning or T. Brady would have had a decent year with last year's Miami team? Look at what happend to Brady in Miami's win last year, when our Defense was all over him. Our Defense made him make stupid mistakes, and Brady rarely makes mistakes.

Seems like the same mistakes that AJ made last year, when opposing Defenses where in the backfield while dropping back from center.

Now to answer the thread, AJ will have to prove the naysayers wrong...

phistix is right. Why are you comparing AJ to Dorsey. Rattay was the starter, AJ was the starter...if you compare a SF QB to Feeley its Rattay you should be doing it to.

http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/187628

 

[philyphin]

Actually Fiedler was the starter and A.J. was the backup, so Dorsey & A.J. were both backup's at the start of the season and both were promoted to starter due to ineffective play & injuries....

 

[LOCAL SCUM!]

Bottom Line: IF AJ doesn't like to see things like that in the Maxim or anywhere else for that matter than he needs to STEP IT UP! OR else enjoy all the jokes cause he DOES suck!

 

[Dolphination73]

the guy was old and a midget who played for the CFL for crying out loud. You are making excuses for AJ like he was a rookie. All I'm saying is that he wasn't very smart w/ the football inspite of having Reid as a caoch and MCnabb to learn from. Everyone knows AJ has the physical tools but does he have the brains? While some finfan predict Losman as being the next Rob Johnson, as stupid as he was, Rob never looked as bad as Feeley either under the same circumstances.

Dude..... I'm sorry... I meant... Lady!!:D Rob Johnson did not have anywhere ear an atrocious OL as Feeley had last year.... And add no running game!! How many times does one need to spell out that AJ Feeley can't be judged based on the state of the team last year!! Brady, Manning, Culpeppeer would've all looked miserable behind our joke of an offense last year!

AJ made progress as some semblance of an offense was put together by Jim Bates. So let's withold any opinions on his brains until he gets a real chance this season shall we?

As for JP Losman.... I know next to nothing about that kid. Never seen him play so I'll abstain from making any comments!

 

[Justasportsfan]

.............and the relevance of this post was???

His reply

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[rafael]

Screw Maxim, that magazine is written by girls who think they understand men. Certainly no one who has ever actually played football. Its the type of magazine that Jets and Pats fans read.

As for Feeley, let people talk smack about him. I've been hearing it non-stop from the Eagles fans that I unfortuneatly am acquainted with. Hes basically never had meaningful playing time until last year, and considering the O-line and running game he had to work with, I think he did a pretty damn good job. I have a ton of faith that if we have patience with him, and the O-line starts to gel, he will have a very good season in '05.

You could describe AJ's performance last year in many ways, but "pretty damn good job" is not one of them.

 

[Justasportsfan]

Dude..... I'm sorry... I meant... Lady!!:D Rob Johnson did not have anywhere ear an atrocious OL as Feeley had last year.... And add no running game!! How many times does one need to spell out that AJ Feeley can't be judged based on the state of the team last year!! Brady, Manning, Culpeppeer would've all looked miserable behind our joke of an offense last year!

AJ made progress as some semblance of an offense was put together by Jim Bates. So let's withold any opinions on his brains until he gets a real chance this season shall we?

As for JP Losman.... I know next to nothing about that kid. Never seen him play so I'll abstain from making any comments!

You obviously didn't watch the bills back then. We had Sammy Morris as our starting rb and he was a rookie (or 2nd yr. player) . Flutie can scramble and so could Rob but Rob was the most sacked qb at that time. Part of it was he held to the ball too long and our Ol was horrible.


Who's fault do you think it was when Flutie got sacked at the final play of the wild card game against the fins? The OL.

You are making excuses for AJ. When he doesn't beat Gus, we shall know who was right. Even if he does beat out Gus, my crystal ball still says you'll be shopping for a future qb next year.

 

[Disnardo]

why are you comparing feeley to dorsey? dorsey was san fran's backup and wasn't expected to get extensive p.t. feeley was brought in to start, so shouldn't a guy expected to start perform better than a back-up for two comparable teams?

I compared AJ to Dorsey after a poster stated that Dorsey was better than AJ. That's why I answered in comparison on team performance for both.