Ray-Ray Armstrong a possibility?
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Absolutely 100% serious. If it was a decade ago, I'd say that UM players were some of the most NFL ready prospects. Now, it seems to be mostly hype and little to show for it.
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Everyone is aware that the program is not what it used to be but they still graduate several NFL ready players each year.
Recently Jimmy Graham who had 1,300 yards and 11 td's comes to mind as a good U M player we missed on. Why not look in your back yard if good players are there ? Maybe you'll change your opinion when Vernon and Miller contribute this year.
Isn't that the truth. Look at all the players that became stars in the NFL and we never winked once.
I must ask this question. Ray Ray Armstrong? I watched every single U game last year, as every year, and I saw nothing out of him. I was not impressed last season. Why should we be impressed now? I am asking, as I may have missed something or it was not great enough for me to remember.
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3rd round pick, and I wouldn't lose any sleep over making that decision.
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NFL history is littered with the likes of Ray Ray who end up like debris by the side of the highway. 5 star out of high school, lots of physical talent in theory, but its all on paper. Maybe he will end up ok, but more likely if he is lucky he will get over-drafted like the Southern Cal safety from a couple of years ago (who totally blows). You know the repetitive story: overdrafted before he starts getting passed around the league but stays in the league for awhile just based off his high school hype. Even if he wasn't a total moron with a massive entitlement problem, his production is nothing worth looking at it due in large part to a lack of football IQ. But even then he's still just a tweener. He might have David Fulcher's size, but not the game. And he can't be a LB either.
Looks like whatever issue with Ray Ray has been resolved and he'll he sticking with the team.
Give him two weeks before the ****s it up again.
Give him two weeks before the ****s it up again.
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What's interesting is I haven't heard anything on Seantrel Henderson either, which I would take it means he'll work things out as well. Or perhaps it means I'm just not listening closely enough, lol.
Ray Ray is slow. It's astonishing to me that this thread drifted dozens of posts minus that theme. Plenty of Canes insiders thought he never should have been a safety to begin with. His frame and lack of speed suggested linebacker, a nice compliment to Sean Spence given 15 more pounds.
He'll be downgraded by the NFL as soon as they check his lack of wheels. Heck, I remember when Colin McCarthy effortlessly raced past Ray Ray in the open field. I think that was 2010 against Virginia Tech. Ryan Williams busted a very long TD run and Ray Ray's speed was exposed in pursuit. It reminded me of Todd Marinovich trying to throw a deep ball. Actually, Marinovich would make sure that never happened at USC. Ray Ray was stuck. I'm surprised he didn't grab a hammy, which would have been the equivalent of Marinovich wandering around until he was sacked.
Otherwise:
* Vaughn Telemaque is too stiff. Big hitter who will make a play if he happens to be perfectly positioned but he lacks the agility to put himself in that situation often enough.
* Kacy Rodgers is a late developer but he may turn into Miami's best safety this season. Or perhaps freshman Deon Bush. Rodgers had one hopeless play against FSU last season, allowing a TD and causing fans to relentlessly turn on him. But in spring he made an amazing improvement.
* The Canes defense in general this spring was markedly more physical and blue collar. Not where it needs to be in terms of robust barrel chested types but certainly not the pathetic weakling frames of recent seasons, fighting to stay warm in Orlando or El Paso. Waves of rangy young tweeners, disrupting the backfield. Curtis Porter, when healthy, is the best Miami defensive tackle in more than a half decade. The Canes were also attacking the short pass beyond any tendency in years. Granted, this was against woeful backup quarterbacking and a lack of downfield playmakers. Fans were all but stunned and silent during the spring game. Virtually no offense or scoring. I took it as a good sign. It's a team in transition and the fans weren't prepared for it. They were accustomed to lollipop spring games like 2010, with Randy Shannon checking his watch between one prancing uncontested touchdown after another.
* Seantrel Henderson is not in trouble, from what I understand. He showed up a day late but otherwise he's lost weight and is starting to dedicate himself. Started slow in the spring game at right tackle then had many good moments when the offense committed to the run during the third quarter. He's still a bit of a tease, awesome flashes on certain plays then gangly and upright otherwise. I expect Henderson to turn pro after this season but he needs to vastly improve his conditioning to avoid a draft day letdown. No matter how athletic an offensive lineman looks, if he's a blubbery type invariably he'll fall below projection. Cordy Glenn was the latest example.
He'll be downgraded by the NFL as soon as they check his lack of wheels. Heck, I remember when Colin McCarthy effortlessly raced past Ray Ray in the open field. I think that was 2010 against Virginia Tech. Ryan Williams busted a very long TD run and Ray Ray's speed was exposed in pursuit. It reminded me of Todd Marinovich trying to throw a deep ball. Actually, Marinovich would make sure that never happened at USC. Ray Ray was stuck. I'm surprised he didn't grab a hammy, which would have been the equivalent of Marinovich wandering around until he was sacked.
Otherwise:
* Vaughn Telemaque is too stiff. Big hitter who will make a play if he happens to be perfectly positioned but he lacks the agility to put himself in that situation often enough.
* Kacy Rodgers is a late developer but he may turn into Miami's best safety this season. Or perhaps freshman Deon Bush. Rodgers had one hopeless play against FSU last season, allowing a TD and causing fans to relentlessly turn on him. But in spring he made an amazing improvement.
* The Canes defense in general this spring was markedly more physical and blue collar. Not where it needs to be in terms of robust barrel chested types but certainly not the pathetic weakling frames of recent seasons, fighting to stay warm in Orlando or El Paso. Waves of rangy young tweeners, disrupting the backfield. Curtis Porter, when healthy, is the best Miami defensive tackle in more than a half decade. The Canes were also attacking the short pass beyond any tendency in years. Granted, this was against woeful backup quarterbacking and a lack of downfield playmakers. Fans were all but stunned and silent during the spring game. Virtually no offense or scoring. I took it as a good sign. It's a team in transition and the fans weren't prepared for it. They were accustomed to lollipop spring games like 2010, with Randy Shannon checking his watch between one prancing uncontested touchdown after another.
* Seantrel Henderson is not in trouble, from what I understand. He showed up a day late but otherwise he's lost weight and is starting to dedicate himself. Started slow in the spring game at right tackle then had many good moments when the offense committed to the run during the third quarter. He's still a bit of a tease, awesome flashes on certain plays then gangly and upright otherwise. I expect Henderson to turn pro after this season but he needs to vastly improve his conditioning to avoid a draft day letdown. No matter how athletic an offensive lineman looks, if he's a blubbery type invariably he'll fall below projection. Cordy Glenn was the latest example.