Report: Candidates being steered away from Dolphins GM job

[BIG_FISH_RI]

Hire Gaine. I am on the Gaine bandwagon now. Best fit and good talent eval.

Hyden - the snow storm must have made you sick!!!! I was riding with you on a lot of the potential interview candidates. But Gaine???? No way. just afraid that he is stuck in the same ol same and I would like a NEW outlook on things. I think Gaine is valuable to the org. BUT I personally do NOT want him runnin the roster....

 

[zachblitz54]

Sometimes stellar candidates will refuse an interview knowing they will get an interview for a better situation later. Sometimes less than stellar candidates will take any interview for a potential promotion that they are offered.

Well said. Not going to hurt for the young guys to get interview experience. They dont have to accept an offer. Matter of fact, I wouldnt be surprised if some have already turned down an offer for the job or even for second interview.

 

[KevInMotion]

and finally....... NONE OF THE FINZ STAFF IS AT THE SENIOR BOWL? has that ever happened? has there ever been a staff that did not send ONE of there staff to such an important talent event?

this gives credit to 3 things: the choice is and always has been BRIANE GAINE. he has already been studying this years crop of college players. they keep him away from what would be a SWARMING media all over him about the GM position, is he really a candidate? does he actually want the job? who is the ral candidate for the job? is the organization as disfunctional as reported? and we havnt heard one peep from him anywhere.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/01/21/dolphins-coaching-staff-not-on-hand-at-senior-bowl/

According to Andrew Abramson of the Palm Beach Post, Dolphins coach Joe Philbin and his staff aren’t on hand in Mobile, Ala. Philbin was there last year, after missing his first one with the Dolphins since he had just been hired.

They have scouts present, led by assistant General Manager Brian Gaine, but the team’s presence is limited.

So apparently, the Dolphins do have staff there, just not any of the "top brass". Gaine is also there, which goes against your argument about the Phins sheltering him from the media/world.

 

[psfign]

Not a very impressive list.

Like you have any idea what's impressive.

 

[Canadianfishfan]

Hire Gaine. I am on the Gaine bandwagon now. Best fit and good talent eval.

Sweet Jesus Hayden.

Stop eating yellow snow.

 

[Hayden Fox]

He is the best fit under this current structure, folks.

Plus, as a poster mentioned early in my thread yesterday, IF the team fails next year, Ross can finally make an easy clean sweep of the FO and coaching staff. IF he goes with a Ray Farmer, he is again having the possibility of another forced marriage.

 

[DolfanISS]

I don't care how we want to protect the Dolphins organization Ross is being a tool. He knows nothing about football he needs to hire a GM/football guy and let him run the show. That means decide the fate of Philbin, Aponte, or insert name. IMHO we're wasting a year by forcing folks who may not necessarily want to work together, to work together. If it works out I'll be thrilled as I always want to see the Fins win. If it doesn't work out I thinks it's something that many fans should have been able to easily predict yet we'll protect the Fins like their family and not believe any of these rumors that pop up until failure occurs. It's the same old story with the Miami Dolphins and I'm tired of it.

 

[dolpns13]

If true, we have officially been deemed as the most dysfunctional team in the NFL. Even more than the likes of the Raiders. It just keeps getting worse and worse. No candidates have been interviewed since the middle of last week and seemingly no collaboration within the team regarding said position. Not sure about his other organizations, but Ross clearly still has no idea on how to run this organization...clearly

 

[matt11390]

Sweet Jesus Hayden.

Stop eating yellow snow.

Funny I just want the best we have to choose from and quite frankly none of us know who that it is. We base our opinions on what we read about each candidate and how we spin their experience. The only reason Gaine isn't accepted by many here is because of our assumption he worked with Ireland so he must be like Ireland. We don't know he could be totally opposite of Ireland. I read good things about him as reported from the views of others in the NFL which is opposite of Ireland who was not liked at all.

IMO Gaine would be just as good of a candidate as Farmer or anyone else so I will be willing to give whomever gets the job a chance. Hayden is correct in his assumption if it doesn't go well next year it would be easier to clean house if Gaine is the GM. Frankly I'm not sold on Philbin so who knows. Whoever becomes our GM I hope he does a great job and Miami starts winning again.

Now if Ross would give the new GM the power over Philbin and Aponte then I think we would get the Gambles and McCloughans's of the league to interview and even if they don't if we hired one of our current candidates other than Gaine that person could still pick their coach if they fired Philbin ... which will happen anyway most likely if we stink next year. The new GM will stay and the coach will go and Ross will give the GM the power he should have this year.

 

[phintim]

As reported Ireland left even after being offered more money to stay but basically getting nutered of having any authority which means Philbin and Aponte are running the show. I gotta agree with Hayden, Gaine is probably the best fit under the circumstances, first he is a known commodity, second he fits under the present power structure just fine and third if this does not work with Aponte and Philbin in charge next year then its clear they are a problem. Currently based on interviews of a bunch of rookie GM hopefuls we are betting on a winner by just throwing a bunch of turds against the wall and hopeing one sticks. Gotta take off the rose colored glasses and look and realize that all the veteran GM are avoiding our situation like the plague and there is a reason why!

 

[Canadianfishfan]

Funny I just want the best we have to choose from and quite frankly none of us know who that it is. We base our opinions on what we read about each candidate and how we spin their experience. The only reason Gaine isn't accepted by many here is because of our assumption he worked with Ireland so he must be like Ireland. We don't know he could be totally opposite of Ireland. I read good things about him as reported from the views of others in the NFL which is opposite of Ireland who was not liked at all.

IMO Gaine would be just as good of a candidate as Farmer or anyone else so I will be willing to give whomever gets the job a chance. Hayden is correct in his assumption if it doesn't go well next year it would be easier to clean house if Gaine is the GM. Frankly I'm not sold on Philbin so who knows. Whoever becomes our GM I hope he does a great job and Miami starts winning again.

Now if Ross would give the new GM the power over Philbin and Aponte then I think we would get the Gambles and McCloughans's of the league to interview and even if they don't if we hired one of our current candidates other than Gaine that person could still pick their coach if they fired Philbin ... which will happen anyway most likely if we stink next year. The new GM will stay and the coach will go and Ross will give the GM the power he should have this year.

Hard to refute any of your points Matt. Although the hire will obviously impact season ticket sales and luring quality FAs IMO. While there is the argument of a wholesale slate cleaning, I'm of the philosophy that Ross is going to take his time to hire the guy who will ultimately be responsible to reporting to him, and be the main evaluator of Philbin's job this time next year. So if Philbin tanks, the new GM will tell Ross to fire him, and then the new GM will be his most guarded ally in his replacement.

This next hire is going to be a complete "Ross guy" IMO. Gaine may or may not be that guy. None of us know that. But I believe Ross senses the impending gloom that would surround this team with such a hire.

 

[Canadianfishfan]

As reported Ireland left even after being offered more money to stay but basically getting nutered of having any authority which means Philbin and Aponte are running the show. I gotta agree with Hayden, Gaine is probably the best fit under the circumstances, first he is a known commodity, second he fits under the present power structure just fine and third if this does not work with Aponte and Philbin in charge next year then its clear they are a problem. Currently based on interviews of a bunch of rookie GM hopefuls we are betting on a winner by just throwing a bunch of turds against the wall and hopeing one sticks. Gotta take off the rose colored glasses and look and realize that all the veteran GM are avoiding our situation like the plague and there is a reason why!

The Ireland scenario is one that reads,

Ross: "You can stay if you want, but under these conditions."
Ireland: "**** that!"
Ross: "Well then let's agree to disagree!"
Ireland: "Fine!"
Ross: "Fine!

 

[DolfanISS]

I just can't believe Philbin and Aponte are soooooo important to Ross we are limiting our chances a getting a good GM. Get used to choosing another team to cheer for in the playoffs.


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[Dick Pepperwood]

I just can't believe Philbin and Aponte are soooooo important to Ross we are limiting our chances a getting a good GM. Get used to choosing another team to cheer for in the playoffs.


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Been getting used to that for years Dude. I think some folks on Finheaven could handle this Team better. Is that a joke? No cause we are a joke and miss the playoffs anyway? Give Hayden a shot.

 

[THE OG CANEPHINS]

That is such BS. Anyone who was or wants to be a GM will interview. Those who don't won't.