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Ricky and Ronnie

HysterikiLL said:
Ricky has just too many issues. I'd take him back only if we never drafted Ronnie....but we have Ronnie and it's time for a new era....does look like he'll be back though.
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Who cares about RW's issues now that we don't need to totally rely on him? If he's anything but totally dedicated, you cut him or trade him. Otherwise, split the carries and reduce wear and tear on Ronnie as the team rebuilds.

Then, best case scenario, Ricky proves himself and you trade him for a copuple decent picks.

If he doesn't come back, we still got Ronnie and the bachups!
 
DolphinDevil28 said:
Yes, he WAS one hell of a player. See, I think this is the one spot we disagree. I don't think it's so easy to put on all that muscle again so quickly.

I've done both. I've lost fat at one point, and then at another time tried to put on the muscle I had in high school football. It takes WAY longer to get that strength back than it does to lose fat.

...plus, I just don't think he's dedicated. That's the bottom line to me.

Also, could you imagine the media circus it would create if he came back??? This team, in its new regime, does not need that type of distraction.

I'm against Ricky coming back under any and all circumstances.
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again, to get back to the muscle thing... muscle does in fact have memory... and no disrespect, we are not talking about 2 summers of high school football here, we are talking about Ricky's case of training his entire life... and again Ricky's great genetics will have a lot to do with getting that muscle back. IF HE WANTS TO.

And yes, there will be a major circus here... but again, Saban finds value in him, therefore I'm cool with it.... Maybe I'm putting to much trust into Saban.. who knows...

anyways, Have a great weekend Dol-fans!
 
Ohio Fanatic said:
Your right, it's about the loser player, who happens to smoke pot.
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And if you think his retirering had more to do with smoking pot then the miss managment of Wanny and Co. Wake up! He fired his entire starting OL, didn't do anything of value to replace it and would have expected to hand him the rock 40 times a game with no game plan... My gawd you people have no idea how RW's dissorder on top of everything else effected him. I do, I've raised a daughter for 20 yrs with the same dissorder and im telling you it was not easy. But to call RW a looser with out even recalling the turn of events is just assinine. He quit Wanny, not you, not his team mates just Wanny. And if he can help this team turn it around im behind him 100 percent.
 
I would giv eRonnie the ball 300+ times, and kick Ricky in the fkkkng throat.
 
Slappa said:
And if you think his retirering had more to do with smoking pot then the miss managment of Wanny and Co. Wake up!
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You point me out one time where I said that pot was the main reason Ricky quit. I've said it's because he has no motivation or will to win from day one. Plus the fact that he's not ready to come back adds more fuel to the fire of me not wanting him.


Slappa said:
My gawd you people have no idea how RW's dissorder on top of everything else effected him. I do, I've raised a daughter for 20 yrs with the same dissorder and im telling you it was not easy. But to call RW a looser with out even recalling the turn of events is just assinine.
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OK, well more props to you, but that gives you no right to come on here, bust down the door with your 19 posts and violate the TOS rules of this site. You acted very ignorantly earlier with the name calling and so forth...
 
Ricky isn't coming back. Saban said he wants ricky back? Well he also said he wanted to draft Edwards at #2. Did it happen? No. Saban wants no part of Ricky, which is why he drafted Brown.
 
i say ronnie splits time like he did at auburn with caddy.this time the role is reversed .ronnie starter and ricky to give us a change of pace .we all know that ricky can play at this level and we are crossing our fingers that ronnie turnsinto another homerun
 
DolphinDevil28 said:
The reason Saban is so open to Ricky coming back is for future reference, to make our team better. How? TO TRADE HIM. You know some team out there, somewhere, would give up at least a 3rd rounder for him.
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Why would Saban offer all of the psychological help that the Dolphins have at their disposal to trade him? Why would Saban go through the effort of meeting with veteran leaders to get their opinions one it? Why would Saban bring up the idea that he would like Ricky to return, and strongly hint it would be to play? To drum up interest?

There is no interest in runningbacks. This last draft had 3 taken in the top 10, and 9 taken in the first day.

The Colts have had no interest in a 2nd for Edgerin James. The Seahawks have had no interest in a 2nd for Shaun Alexander. The Bills have had very little interest in Travis Henry for a 3rd rounder.

It took 4 monthes of free agency for Anthony Thomas to find a team to sign with, and only then as a backup. He's got 2 1000+ yard rushing seasons out of 4 seasons, and has comparatively low mileage. Eddie George is still out there.

We're not going to get at least a third rounder. Who out there even needs a runningback?
 
byroan said:
Ricky isn't coming back. Saban said he wants ricky back? Well he also said he wanted to draft Edwards at #2. Did it happen? No. Saban wants no part of Ricky, which is why he drafted Brown.
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Are you serious?

He wants no part in Ricky? Is that why nearly immediately after drafting Ronnie Brown, he said the door was still open for Ricky to return?

You do understand that Saban and the Dolphins stood to GAIN from making people think they were going to draft Edwards, or Alex Smith? They wanted to trade down. The more worried teams were that their player would not drop, the more likely they were to trade up.

What does Saban have to gain by pretending to be interesting in Ricky?
 
Disgustipate said:
Are you serious?

He wants no part in Ricky? Is that why nearly immediately after drafting Ronnie Brown, he said the door was still open for Ricky to return?

You do understand that Saban and the Dolphins stood to GAIN from making people think they were going to draft Edwards, or Alex Smith? They wanted to trade down. The more worried teams were that their player would not drop, the more likely they were to trade up.

What does Saban have to gain by pretending to be interesting in Ricky?
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Yes, I'm serious. He didn't say the door was still open to Ricky. He said if Ricky has value to this organtization he'd be interested. I fail to see where a 180lb RB who smokes pot and quits on his team has value.

What does Saban have to gain by pretending to be interested in Ricky? I don't know, you tell me.
 
byroan said:
Yes, I'm serious. He didn't say the door was still open to Ricky. He said if Ricky has value to this organtization he'd be interested. I fail to see where a 180lb RB who smokes pot and quits on his team has value.
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Well, first of all, he's not 180 pounds. He's 200 pounds, and in good shape. Him getting into playing shape is not an issue.

Oh, here's what Saban said on it.

Nick Saban said:
"If Williams were committed to coming back and being a productive player," Saban said, "... well, I've discussed this with some of the leaders of the team, and I think he'd be welcome.

"There were guys who said they'd never forgive him," someone said.

"And my wife told me once, 'I'll never talk to you again,'" Saban said."
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Nick Saban said:
"The guy has value to the organization,'' said Saban, discussing all things Ricky in a 73-minute gabfest at the AFC head coaches media breakfast. "He's property of the Dolphins. He's obviously shown an ability with his history as a player to be a very productive, actually dominating, player at times at his position.

"So if Ricky shows some commitment in wanting to come back to the team, basically it's our philosophy that we would support him to try to help him do that. Now there are a lot of issues surrounding that. And that's something we have to deal with. But we would be supportive of him.''
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Nick Saban said:
"First of all, it's probably in Ricky Williams' best interest, if he wants to come back and play football to have an opportunity to do that. I have a tremendous amount of respect for the guy, relative to the kind of competitor he was and the kind of football player he was and if he's willing to make a commitment to doing that, then it's a good thing for him and it could be a very good thing for us. Secondly, I'm trying to support him in making a decision about what he wants to do. Being helpful to him, trying to get things to where he wants to go and if that path leads him back to our team, I certainly think he's an outstanding player and he could help our team if he's committed to doing that. I also think that Ronnie Brown is versatile enough, as he was at Auburn, to play with another outstanding back, and be able to be a very productive player in a 2-back system. Because he is a very good receiver, he's a good blocker and he actually played fullback some of the time with Cadillac, and was also put out of the backfield and used a very good receiver. His versatility offers us some flexibility in using both guys, including Ricky.
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Ohio Fanatic said:
While I don't agree with your Ricky coming back being good analysis, I do agree that smoking pot has nothing to do with being a loser. I went to one of the top science colleges in the nation for undergrads, better than Harvard, Columbia or Yale. And I guarantee at least half of the tenured professors there smoked pot for a least some time during their lives. A few of them were world renowned scientists. Ricky is a loser because of his quitter personality and his refusal to be held accountable to anyone but himself. Hell, he's not even accountable to his own damn children. You can be a winner and still smoke pot, it can be a fairly harmless drug, much less harmful than alcohol, as long as you don't let it dominate your life.
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riiiggghhhtttt....being a college teacher is the definition of success...what a shocker...college teachers smoking pot...whoda guessed that:shakeno:
 
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