Ricky and Ronnie

[DolphinDevil28]

Actually the best way to do this is by allowing Ricky to start getting most of the time in the beginning, and as the season progresses (depending how fast Brown comes along), you start giving him more and more time, to the point that it will be Brown starting and Ricky coming in to give Brown time to rest.

Well, if it was QB or WR we are talking about, then I'd agree. But RB is the easiest position to translate from college to the NFL the fastest.

If you can run, you can run. Ronnie will be a stud from day one. I still can't believe how many people have forgotten how much weight Ricky lost. He is not in shape.


...You know what??? ALL THIS CRAP IS MOOT POINT. RICKY IS NOT COMING BACK!!!!!!!!!

 

[MadLib]

Dont make our 2nd round pick into a blocker!! He's much more valuable than that!!

You mean 2nd overall?.. I agree.

 

[Slappa]

:roflmao:

WRONG!!!!!

Seriously, I'm not trying to be a jerk, but you have seriously, seriously misread what Saban said. He said "IF Williams had value to the organization," he'd welcome him back. Does that AUTOMATICALLY mean if he signed back, that he'd start???? HELL NO!!

...and Ronnie Brown was quoted as saying that he wouldn't mind splitting carries with someone else. That's just a show of how down to earth and humble he is. Nothing more, nothing less.

Ricky ain't coming back. Just accept it.

:shakeno:
Seriosly, you don't need to try because you are!

You ma freind have misread everything i have said. Did i say anything to the fact of RW starting? NO! And Saban did state that Ronnie would split carries with another significant back, draft day remember. And if i recall correctly we do not have another significant back currently on the roster. Your right that he did say "If RW has value to the organization" which leaves me to believe that Saban feels (so do I) that RW talent is not the issue, his current contract numbers are.

And before you even go there. Saban unlike Wanny is smart enough realize that RW has a very serious dissorder and can not be alianated (SP?) from a team atmosphere. And if and that's a big IF, RW doesn't work out, the orginazation has lost nothing.

The writting is on the wall. Ricky will be back.... Accept that!!!!!

 

[simbaboxer]

If ricky comes back, and I think he will, he will be suspended for the first 4 games.

That means that Ronnie will start and be the main focus of the offense for the first four games. Then if Ricky comes back, they will both spell each other for the end of the season, when the Fins fade.

Since the both have the size and skill to block, the defense will never know who to spy on.

It is a win win.

 

[Spray Mucus]

I still can't believe how many people have forgotten how much weight Ricky lost. He is not in shape.


...You know what??? ALL THIS CRAP IS MOOT POINT. RICKY IS NOT COMING BACK!!!!!!!!!

For a guy who talks a lot of smack you really are quit ignorant on human anatomy.

Ricky has been a physical specimen his WHOLE life... and the fact that he's lost mainly muscle is way better than him putting on 30 lbs of fat. The human body is very special and muscle has incredible memory, 2 months of hitting the iron hard and he'll be back up to 230lb guaranteed! And since it was weight lost (in muscle) and not weight gained (in fat)... 2 months is perfect to put that muscle back on!

if you don't believe me, refere to just about any health and nutrition book/mag.

 

[Slappa]

If ricky comes back, and I think he will, he will be suspended for the first 4 games.

That means that Ronnie will start and be the main focus of the offense for the first four games. Then if Ricky comes back, they will both spell each other for the end of the season, when the Fins fade.

Since the both have the size and skill to block, the defense will never know who to spy on.

It is a win win.

:eek: Wow, i was starting to believe this site was for fickle fanz that cannot see the reason beond this fanascal, only the resaults of which.

This line up, could open up alot of possibilities for Saban! Wake up ppl..
Get over it!

 

[DonShula84]

No way a 6'0 230 lb. runner who runs a 4.37 will be a fullback.

If Ricky came back, (which I do NOT want), Ronnie will start and Ricky will spell him when he needs a breather.

Ricky would have to prove he can even still play. He's got to get back into shape.

That is how I would play it also.

 

[DolphinDevil28]

And Saban did state that Ronnie would split carries with another significant back, draft day remember. And if i recall correctly we do not have another significant back currently on the roster.

You just made my argument for me. Saban and Ronnie said that he WOULD split carries with another back, meaning that if one were to sign, then it would happen.

I just don't see how you are so confident that Ricky is coming back. All this talk has been Saban saying that he would welcome him back.

When have we heard from Ricky? We haven't, and that's because he doesn't care. All he wants to do is smoke pot and live in India, so leave him be. I, and many other Dolphins fans, want nothing to do with him.

 

[Spray Mucus]

:eek: Wow, i was starting to believe this site was for fickle fanz that cannot see the reason beond this fanascal, only the resaults of which.

This line up, could open up alot of possibilities for Saban! Wake up ppl..
Get over it!

Not this site... the fickle fans are on the Miami Herald message board... now talk about a bunch of whinny babies...

I hate it there... I think there all Jet fans in disguise. :confused:

 

[Dave007]

I was one of the biggest Ricky supporters before what he did last year. I think we have plenty of RB"s. We don't need or should want Ricky back. Unless Saban is just trying to "Showcase" him for a draft pick. Then..................Maybe

 

[DolphinDevil28]

For a guy who talks a lot of smack you really are quit ignorant on human anatomy.

Ricky has been a physical specimen his WHOLE life... and the fact that he's lost mainly muscle is way better than him putting on 30 lbs of fat. The human body is very special and muscle has incredible memory, 2 months of hitting the iron hard and he'll be back up to 230lb guaranteed! And since it was weight lost (in muscle) and not weight gained (in fat)... 2 months is perfect to put that muscle back on!

if you don't believe me, refere to just about any health and nutrition book/mag.

Thank you Doogie Howser.

BTW, when was I talking smack??? I just stated that Ricky is not coming back.

I'm getting "outsmacked" by two people that have less than 400 posts combined.

There was so much talk of the "Jay Fiedler huggers" on here a year ago, we need to coin the term "Ricky huggers."

You people need to get over the pot smoker and realize the loser ain't coming back!

 

[DolphinDevil28]

I was one of the biggest Ricky supporters before what he did last year. I think we have plenty of RB"s. We don't need or should want Ricky back. Unless Saban is just trying to "Showcase" him for a draft pick. Then..................Maybe

PRECISELY!!!

Thank you, finally someone with some sense!

 

[Disgustipate]

...You know what??? ALL THIS CRAP IS MOOT POINT. RICKY IS NOT COMING BACK!!!!!!!!!

We're talking about reality here. You may really not want to see Ricky Williams come back, but basically all signs point to Saban wanting him to return, and rumor has it Ricky does too. Look at todays news, for example. Did you notice Jim Brown, one of the guys that influenced Ricky's retirement in the first place has said that he thinks Ricky could return and Saban is doing the right things for it?

If Ricky returns, the impact will be more then just splitting carries. For those of you suggesting Ricky would be purely a backup...Fat chance. During the initial rookie training camp, which Saban spent teaching players what he wants them to know, Ronnie Brown ended up playing at Fullback, H-Back, and Reciever along with Runningback. Saban probabaly was not doing that just out of boredom, and formations involving Fullbacks and H-Backs without a Running back are not exactly common.

There are so many advantages to using them both. For one, who knows if Ronnie Brown can hold up to a full season? If he stays healthy, how do you know he wont tire out as the season goes on? That is a significant problem with rookie players, as they are playing 4 extra games, and the potential for more. Ronnie Brown hasnt had to work with a full college load, much less a full NFL load. Having another back to help lighten the load would be good.

The matchups it presents are pretty damned appealing, too. If he really has the hands he is cracked up to have, he could be a frustrating thing to deal with lined up at FB or WR.

At reciever, he has more then adequate speed. 4.4-4.5 speed is pretty good. He probabaly isnt going to be very easy to jam at the line either, considering he is a power runner and a good blocker.

There arent many linebackers who can stay with someone who runs as fast as Ronnie does. Coming out of the backfield, teams dont really have a great opportunity to hit him or slow him down.

 

[Spray Mucus]

Thank you Doogie Howser.

BTW, when was I talking smack??? I just stated that Ricky is not coming back.

I'm getting "outsmacked" by two people that have less than 400 posts combined.

There was so much talk of the "Jay Fiedler huggers" on here a year ago, we need to coin the term "Ricky huggers."

You people need to get over the pot smoker and realize the loser ain't coming back!

so the amount of posts we have something to do with our knowledge and therefor makes your opnion worth more?! :roflmao:


I used the word ignorant in my last post... Now I'm gonna use STUPID!

I merly pointed out that IF Ricky wanted to come back and wanted to get back into shape (Like you said he isn't)... it wouldn't take long for him to get back what he had...

and Doogie kicked mayjor @$$!

 

[DolphinDevil28]

We're talking about reality here. You may really not want to see Ricky Williams come back, but basically all signs point to Saban wanting him to return, and rumor has it Ricky does too. Look at todays news, for example. Did you notice Jim Brown, one of the guys that influenced Ricky's retirement in the first place has said that he thinks Ricky could return and Saban is doing the right things for it?

If Ricky returns, the impact will be more then just splitting carries. For those of you suggesting Ricky would be purely a backup...Fat chance. During the initial rookie training camp, which Saban spent teaching players what he wants them to know, Ronnie Brown ended up playing at Fullback, H-Back, and Reciever along with Runningback.

There are so many advantages to using them both. For one, who knows if Ronnie Brown can hold up to a full season? If he stays healthy, how do you know he wont tire out as the season goes on? That is a significant problem with rookie players, as they are playing 4 extra games, and the potential for more. Ronnie Brown hasnt had to work with a full college load, much less a full NFL load. Having another back to help lighten the load would be good.

The matchups it presents are pretty damned appealing, too. If he really has the hands he is cracked up to have, he could be a frustrating thing to deal with lined up at FB or WR.

At reciever, he has more then adequate speed. 4.4-4.5 speed is pretty good. He probabaly isnt going to be very easy to jam at the line either, considering he is a power runner and a good blocker.

There arent many linebackers who can stay with someone who runs as fast as Ronnie does. Coming out of the backfield, teams dont really have a great opportunity to hit him or slow him down.

Read Dave007's post right above. He nailed it.

The reason Saban is so open to Ricky coming back is for future reference, to make our team better. How? TO TRADE HIM. You know some team out there, somewhere, would give up at least a 3rd rounder for him.

Ricky has nothing left for the Miami Dolphins, and it's time to move on.