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Ricky Williams, Fake Or Real?

inFINSible said:
No he did not. He made it clear that he loves the game and hates the business.
Once he's on the field, he's in his element and you'll see the same Ricky that's always played hard and fierce. He's not going to half-a$$ it for a paycheck.

Although, I can see why you hope he will....
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I'm not hoping for anything, I am HAPPY he's back b/c the chances are much greater he'll be a distraction than actually help you on the field. The man made it clear he did not love football, he said over and over in interviews he was done and then the owing the Dolphins $6mil(or whatever it is) came up and all of a sudden he wants back in. Let's also not forget that in 5 seasons he has ONE great year and 4 mediocre years including a less than mediocre 3.5 YPC in his last season. His agent has already said he will report but he is not playing for the minimum like the dolphins think he is.
 
nyjunc said:
Let's also not forget that in 5 seasons he has ONE great year and 4 mediocre years including a less than mediocre 3.5 YPC in his last season.
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OMG ... if I hear you trot that lame-as$$ supposition out one more time, I think my head's going to explode.
 
DrAstroZoom said:
OMG ... if I hear you trot that lame-as$$ supposition out one more time, I think my head's going to explode.
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It's fact, look up the #s. It's also fact that only 1 of Ricky's teams has ever made the playoffs and that team did it after Ricky was hurt in the 10th game.
 
I have already looked up the numbers and waved them in your face in a thread ages ago. Your response was to basically stick your fingers in your ears and went "LA LA LAAAA." I'm not going to waste my time again.
 
DrAstroZoom said:
I have already looked up the numbers and waved them in your face in a thread ages ago. Your response was to basically stick your fingers in your ears and went "LA LA LAAAA." I'm not going to waste my time again.
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You didn't prove anything, his #s are average if you take away 2002. He was spectacular in 2002 but outside of that 1 year he has been average and the #s prove that.
 
DrAstroZoom said:
Interested parties can do more research in this thread:

http://www.finheaven.com/boardvb2/showthread.php?t=80598

These are the two most salient posts:
http://www.finheaven.com/boardvb2/showpost.php?p=1242631&postcount=64

http://www.finheaven.com/boardvb2/showpost.php?p=1243975&postcount=82

I'm done. Go back to your reality in which finishing in the top 10 in the league in three rushing categories is mediocre. Send me a post card.
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He's only been top 5 once in rushing yards yet he has been #1 twice in attempts. is trhat a good thing? And the 2 other years he finished top 10 he was 8 & 10. That's the bottom, that is not great it is good but you keep telling yourself how great Ricky is.
 
nyjunc said:
He's only been top 5 once in rushing yards yet he has been #1 twice in attempts. is trhat a good thing? And the 2 other years he finished top 10 he was 8 & 10. That's the bottom, that is not great it is good.
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Well, at least you're admitting he's good. That sure as hell ain't mediocre.
 
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nyjunc said:
You didn't prove anything, his #s are average if you take away 2002. He was spectacular in 2002 but outside of that 1 year he has been average and the #s prove that.
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If he ran behind a great line like the Cowboys had in the 90's then I would be with you on that.

He ran behind a sub-par line for two years. Given that. those stats are very good.
 
nyjunc said:
I'm not hoping for anything, I am HAPPY he's back b/c the chances are much greater he'll be a distraction than actually help you on the field. The man made it clear he did not love football, he said over and over in interviews he was done and then the owing the Dolphins $6mil(or whatever it is) came up and all of a sudden he wants back in. Let's also not forget that in 5 seasons he has ONE great year and 4 mediocre years including a less than mediocre 3.5 YPC in his last season. His agent has already said he will report but he is not playing for the minimum like the dolphins think he is.
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All I'm going to say is that you need to go back and look up what he actually said. When you find where he said he doesn't want to play anymore because he doesn't love the game, we can continue this, otherwise I'm not going to waste my time debating someone who doesn't know what he's talking about.

As for playing for the minimum, Ricky's got no leverage right now, he'll play for whatever is offered, as long as it goes towards forgiving his debt...and when he proves he's back for real, Miami will treat him fairly. Anything else you read is just speculation.
 
SirDrums said:
If he ran behind a great line like the Cowboys had in the 90's then I would be with you on that.

He ran behind a sub-par line for two years. Given that. those stats are very good.
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Which is it? I hear it was the QBs fault , the OL's fault. Whose fault is it? I think those are just excuses. In '01 in NO Ricky gained 1,245 yds on a 4.0 YPC w/ 6 TDs and the next year on the same team Deuce McAllister gained 1,388 yds on a 4.3 YPC and 13 TDs. In '99 Curtis Martin had Rick Mirer and Ray Lucas as his QBs and rushed for 1,464 yds on a 4.0 YPC w/ 5 TDs. In 2002 we had an offense that never threw the ball, Vinny did not have a 200 yard passing game until Week 15 and Curtis had 1,514 yds on a 4.5 YPC and 10 TDs. You can give me all the excuses you want but I don't buy that them.
 
inFINSible said:
All I'm going to say is that you need to go back and look up what he actually said. When you find where he said he doesn't want to play anymore because he doesn't love the game, we can continue this, otherwise I'm not going to waste my time debating someone who doesn't know what he's talking about.
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http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=1846012

"I just don't want to be in this business anymore," Williams told the paper. "I was never strong enough to not play football, but I'm strong enough now. I've considered everything about this. Everyone has thrown every possible scenario at me about why I shouldn't do this, but they're in denial. I'm happy with my decision.

"I'm finally free. I can't remember ever being this happy."
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Sounds like a guy who loves football to me :rolleyes: Then all of a sudden he is bankrupt and wouldn't you know he regains his love for the game.
 
nyjunc said:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=1846012




Sounds like a guy who loves football to me :rolleyes: Then all of a sudden he is bankrupt and wouldn't you know he regains his love for the game.
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"I just don't want to be in this business anymore," Williams told the paper. "I was never strong enough to not play football, but I'm strong enough now. I've considered everything about this. Everyone has thrown every possible scenario at me about why I shouldn't do this, but they're in denial. I'm happy with my decision.

"I'm finally free. I can't remember ever being this happy."
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This is what you found?? :lol:

You need me to break that down for you, or can you see that it doesn't even come close to saying what you think it does?

Looks like I'm still waiting.....
 
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