Rishard Matthews trade speculation.

[Sirspud]

Why do some people assume Rishard Matthews is some kind of hot commodity other teams want to expend draft picks for? :idk:

Because Rishard Matthews is the definition of solid, he has the physical skill and ability to get open fairly regularly, he fights for the ball like only a select percentage of receivers even in the NFL do, and he plays the game with a lot of effort. He is not a potential all pro who is going to fetch a high draft pick, but there are teams out there where he is better than all but one or two of the receivers on their roster. One of those teams is certainly likely to want to improve their roster if the compensation isn't too high.

 

[SSnowman]

I really get tired of Hartline dropping passes in critical situations.

 

[gregorygrant83]

I really get tired of Hartline dropping passes in critical situations.

I'm sure it's happened, but what drops in critical situations are we talking about? Not being a smart ass, I just don't recall more than one or two.

 

[SSnowman]

He had one last week. He had about 3 in the final Buffalo game last year. Seems like when the offense is struggling to put up points and the team is driving, he'll have a critical drop on a 3rd down.

 

[gregorygrant83]

He had one last week. He had about 3 in the final Buffalo game last year. Seems like when the offense is struggling to put up points and the team is driving, he'll have a critical drop on a 3rd down.

I agree with the drop against Buffalo... but I wouldn't call a drop in the first quarter of a preseason game a critical drop. If that's the case all drops are critical.

 

[Sirspud]

I'm sure it's happened, but what drops in critical situations are we talking about? Not being a smart ass, I just don't recall more than one or two.

I know he dropped a TD pass against New England a couple years ago. Nothing stands out to me like Ted Ginn versus the Colts though.

 

[SSnowman]

I agree with the drop against Buffalo... but I wouldn't call a drop in the first quarter of a preseason game a critical drop. If that's the case all drops are critical.

I guess IMO if you're going to be a wide receiver like Hartline that has very little in the way of big play ability and mostly as the guy to move the sticks on a 3rd down you shouldn't be dropping passes right in your hands.

 

[Sarnics13]

I know he dropped a TD pass against New England a couple years ago. Nothing stands out to me like Ted Ginn versus the Colts though.

So you remember a drop in a game a couple years ago? That and a horrid game for our whole team are the examples you could come up with to prove that Hartline is always making critical drops?

Isn't he one of the best in the league for percentage of catches/attempts?

 

[SSnowman]

Not really.

http://www.sportingcharts.com/nfl/stats/drops/2013/

 

[Sirspud]

So you remember a drop in a game a couple years ago? That and a horrid game for our whole team are the examples you could come up with to prove that Hartline is always making critical drops?

Isn't he one of the best in the league for percentage of catches/attempts?

I wasn't really trying to say that he did but I guess you didn't catch that (no put intended). He did have a major problem with drops his second and third year but not many of those stand out as "critical".

 

[nyfinzfan]

Matthews had a key drop on 3rd down in the last game against The Jets that haunted him this offseason as well.

 

[ANUFan]

if you don't know, I know you don't watch the games. He bobbled a pass against Carolina last year that
got intercepted. He can't block. Rizzi was on him about the blocked punt against Dallas. His routes are not diciplined. He drops passes.
How is he not inconsistent?

Now, list all the times hes made incredible catches and key blocks.

 

[Vaark]

Just watched Bokamper interviewing Landry.. what a terrific, self-effacing level-headed kid who's already immersed in the "team concept." But the point of posting this here is that when asked who's most helped him make the transition to the NFL, without thinking he cited Gibson working with him, teaching him how to gain separation. Of course then he also gave thanks to Hartline, and Wallace too. As I've maintained here previously, Gibson, with his route running, statistical clutchness and obvious chemistry with Tannehill from last season is presently this unit's best receiver and any trade talk involving his name should not be welcome.

 

[spiketex]

Just watched Bokamper interviewing Landry.. what a terrific, self-effacing level-headed kid who's already immersed in the "team concept." But the point of posting this here is that when asked who's most helped him make the transition to the NFL, without thinking he cited Gibson working with him, teaching him how to gain separation. Of course then he also gave thanks to Hartline, and Wallace too. As I've maintained here previously, Gibson, with his route running, statistical clutchness and obvious chemistry with Tannehill from last season is presently this unit's best receiver and any trade talk involving his name should not be welcome.

Vaark - I'm not surprised. Brandon Gibson is one of the really smart, high character guys on the team. He's set for a good season.

 

[The Goat]

Gawd.

While the thought of trading from depth makes sense, Matthews would be one guy that I'd hold my breath if we traded him, thinking, "Oh, God, please don't let this one come back and really #### us in the ### over the next six years."

Because if there's one WR who could probably do that, it's him.