Noodle Arm
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Not to be rude but is it possible to get this thread back on topic? How a thread about Rohan Davey turned into something about the Jets kicker is one of those message board mysteries.
Rohan Davey available??
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wyatt erp
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this is just a thought going through this brilliant mind here but why not offer san deigo a good pakage for drew brees and put this qb situation to rest.
for instance , we could offer a 2nd rd draft pick in 2007 and give them wr thompson, gillmore and te donald lee. then we bring in te trent smith and trade a rb for te billy bajema then we will be able to rock and roll. of course we need to do something with these clowns mckinney, whittley, and mcintosh.
for instance , we could offer a 2nd rd draft pick in 2007 and give them wr thompson, gillmore and te donald lee. then we bring in te trent smith and trade a rb for te billy bajema then we will be able to rock and roll. of course we need to do something with these clowns mckinney, whittley, and mcintosh.
bigmiamifan
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popularwar said:
So draft a QB that will be a backup for 1-2 years?
We need to trade for someone already with NFL time. Rivers, Brees, etc.
Philter25
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SeriouslyNoodle Arm said:
Anyways back on topic.... We are NOT going to trade for Brees this year. It takes 2-3 years for you to be able to judge a QB. Feeley and Frerotte havent played a SINGLE GAME in our new system. Unfortunately for Feeley, it looks like he has 1 year to prove himself in our system. Also, the Chargers are going to develop Rivers for another year behind Brees. The best way for a QB to learn is by watching a probowler 2 years in a row..... Brees will be on the trading block next year and if Feeley doesnt pan out and we dont think we have a shot at getting a starting QB in the draft, I wouldnt mind making an offer to San Diego.
DolfanTom
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This thread is a joke, right? I mean, Rohan Davey? Huh?? Last thing we need is another mediocre-at-best QB who has trouble hitting wide open receivers. Quite frankly, I'm getting sick of seeing this type of QB play from the Dolphins. I can't believe I've actually sat through five Marino-less seasons now. It's starting to wear on me. And we have another one coming up.
We should stick with who we have and see if any of them surprise us with a good season. Rome wasn't built in a day, however, so we may just have to be patient and wait for '06 or even '07 to get a decent QB in here. I have faith in Saban, but he can only do so much each season. This year he's improving the backfield, offensive/defensive systems, and getting the defense younger. Next year - onto to the rest of the list.
We should stick with who we have and see if any of them surprise us with a good season. Rome wasn't built in a day, however, so we may just have to be patient and wait for '06 or even '07 to get a decent QB in here. I have faith in Saban, but he can only do so much each season. This year he's improving the backfield, offensive/defensive systems, and getting the defense younger. Next year - onto to the rest of the list.
ckparrothead
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Grabbing Rohan Davey would make sense. Saban has experience with him, and his big arm and physical prowess are characteristics that Scott Linehan seems to require in his system, if his tenure in Minnesota is to be taken into account. Of the guys who've had success in Minnesota, they've all been very strong-armed, Frerotte included.
One thing to note though, I read in an article that the whole "wolves not sheep or sheep dogs" thing came about after Saban admitted that his LSU team rose and fell with Rohan Davey becoming their natural leader. Saban didn't want to stake his career on one guy like that again. He may or may not, therefore, have an aversion to Davey. Then again, he may feel that Davey is perfect for this offense and he just needs to make sure that he surrounds him with wolves instead of sheep so that they won't rise or fall depending on whether Davey's having a good or bad day...
I'm tired about all the whining about grabbing "another mediocre quarterback" In this league, that's just about the only way you can GET a good quarterback, is to find a mediocre one and let him surprise you. We used our #2 pick on a runningback, because there was no QB available even remotely close to being worth the #2 pick. And, we'll probably not pick that high again. Get over it. You say Drew Brees, and I say he's neither fit for Linehan's system, nor is he the premium name everyone claims. Nine times out of ten, if you're acquiring a "premium" quarterback, you're paying a premium price for a guy who doesn't turn out to be as "premium" as you hoped. In 2001, the "premium" quarterbacks that were available were Brad Johnson, Elvis Grbac, and Trent Green. Grbac and Johnson were free agents and got big contracts that neither turned out to be worth. Johnson had some success in 2002, when they won the Super Bowl, but he was helped by a defense that rivaled the Baltimore defense of 2000. He sucked the first year he got to Tampa, he sucked in 2003, and he sucked in 2004. So the Bucs paid like $25 million for one good year of quarterback play. And Elvis Grbac, whoa boy I don't think I need to say anything about him. Meanwhile Trent Green has done very well, but guess what KC paid a first round pick to get him, and that was only because Vermeil had coached him before so he knew exactly what he was getting. Nine times out of ten you simply end up overpaying when you're trying to acquire a "premium" quarterback, because if the dude really was "premium" then the team he's coming from wouldn't be letting him go. In the salary cap era, "overpaying" is the biggest sin in personnel management, be that overpaying draft picks (see: Williams, Ricky) or overpaying salary cap dollars (see: Grbac, Elvis). The only time the premium price thing seems to work is when the coach involved has a good beat on the guy he's acquiring because he's coached him before (Hasselbeck and Green).
I guess if we get another high first round pick, we can do that roll of the dice thing where we draft a top 10 QB and hope he pans out, but until then...we cycle "mediocre" guys until we find the right one in the right situation. Rohan Davey would be perfect for that.
One thing to note though, I read in an article that the whole "wolves not sheep or sheep dogs" thing came about after Saban admitted that his LSU team rose and fell with Rohan Davey becoming their natural leader. Saban didn't want to stake his career on one guy like that again. He may or may not, therefore, have an aversion to Davey. Then again, he may feel that Davey is perfect for this offense and he just needs to make sure that he surrounds him with wolves instead of sheep so that they won't rise or fall depending on whether Davey's having a good or bad day...
I'm tired about all the whining about grabbing "another mediocre quarterback" In this league, that's just about the only way you can GET a good quarterback, is to find a mediocre one and let him surprise you. We used our #2 pick on a runningback, because there was no QB available even remotely close to being worth the #2 pick. And, we'll probably not pick that high again. Get over it. You say Drew Brees, and I say he's neither fit for Linehan's system, nor is he the premium name everyone claims. Nine times out of ten, if you're acquiring a "premium" quarterback, you're paying a premium price for a guy who doesn't turn out to be as "premium" as you hoped. In 2001, the "premium" quarterbacks that were available were Brad Johnson, Elvis Grbac, and Trent Green. Grbac and Johnson were free agents and got big contracts that neither turned out to be worth. Johnson had some success in 2002, when they won the Super Bowl, but he was helped by a defense that rivaled the Baltimore defense of 2000. He sucked the first year he got to Tampa, he sucked in 2003, and he sucked in 2004. So the Bucs paid like $25 million for one good year of quarterback play. And Elvis Grbac, whoa boy I don't think I need to say anything about him. Meanwhile Trent Green has done very well, but guess what KC paid a first round pick to get him, and that was only because Vermeil had coached him before so he knew exactly what he was getting. Nine times out of ten you simply end up overpaying when you're trying to acquire a "premium" quarterback, because if the dude really was "premium" then the team he's coming from wouldn't be letting him go. In the salary cap era, "overpaying" is the biggest sin in personnel management, be that overpaying draft picks (see: Williams, Ricky) or overpaying salary cap dollars (see: Grbac, Elvis). The only time the premium price thing seems to work is when the coach involved has a good beat on the guy he's acquiring because he's coached him before (Hasselbeck and Green).
I guess if we get another high first round pick, we can do that roll of the dice thing where we draft a top 10 QB and hope he pans out, but until then...we cycle "mediocre" guys until we find the right one in the right situation. Rohan Davey would be perfect for that.
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Lederhosen said:
Yes, but if he's struggling, well, what is he worth to us? We already have guys that can struggle. I say keep the pick.
Doktor Ivel
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Rohan would be starting for us......please get him
ckparrothead
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Donovan McNabb struggles with his accuracy. Daunte Culpepper struggles with his accuracy. I don't see them compared to Fiedler.
There's more to being a good QB than accuracy.
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bigtingsagwaan2005
I say we play all our young guns this year, throw a few games if need be, and then draft Matt Leinart with the #1 pick next year.
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bigtingsagwaan2005
on a more serious note, we shouldn't dismiss the thought of bringing in a guy just because his accuracy is off. Feeley threw 6 INT's for Touchdowns last season if my memory serves me correct...that's pretty damn inaccurate & TERRIBLE decision-making. the ones I saw he was staring down the receiver so hard and for so long it was like he was undressing them with his eyes. if I do that playing FLAG football I get picked...
Gus was brought in because he knows the system already & Saban has no faith in Feeley. Also, I hear Feeley is TERRIBLE in practice...how do you coach a guy who sucks in PRACTICE!
I'm not a hater, I'm just not a believer. Sorry to be negative.
If Rosenfelds is never an option to start it's time to dump him before the poor guy learns a whole new playbook just to warm the bench. Bring in Davey or whoever else, but make sure they're young and hungry. Brees needed a fire under his *** in the name of Rivers to get his act together and recommit himself to the game. I don't think Gus is the guy that's going to light up Feeley. I hope I'm wrong.
Gus was brought in because he knows the system already & Saban has no faith in Feeley. Also, I hear Feeley is TERRIBLE in practice...how do you coach a guy who sucks in PRACTICE!
I'm not a hater, I'm just not a believer. Sorry to be negative.
If Rosenfelds is never an option to start it's time to dump him before the poor guy learns a whole new playbook just to warm the bench. Bring in Davey or whoever else, but make sure they're young and hungry. Brees needed a fire under his *** in the name of Rivers to get his act together and recommit himself to the game. I don't think Gus is the guy that's going to light up Feeley. I hope I'm wrong.