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Malzahn would be an enormous risk.

Running an NFL team is a completely different animal.
I know all of you are think wow we missed out on Chip Kelly. The guy who inherited a loaded team in the worst division in the NFL and promptly lost in the first round of the Wild Card.

I will give you another example of a young college wiz kid that everyone wanted. Lane Kiffin or even Steve Spurrier who was a god in college flopped in the NFL and went right back to college in one of the toughest jobs in America and went right back to winning.

I am not saying that Malzahn is the right or wrong guy, but 8 years ago the guy was coaching High School. He has one year of experience at Auburn. He has done a fantastic job, but let him wade through some adversity. Being in the NFL is a completely different animal. Teams are much better at dissecting your weaknesses. Just see Spurrier's failed efforts at the NFL.

Bringing in Malzahn to the NFL as a head coach, you are essentially banking on him as some sort of savant.
 
War Eagle.

I would only root for the nulls if they were playing gump. Hoping Auburn destroys that scum program with its dirtbag qb which does not deserve to have as many championships as the Gators. NOTHING about the little sister fallback school deserves in any way, shape or form to be considered on a level with the flagship school of this state which represents in the powerful SEC instead of looking for the easy way out with the acc wannabes.

Malzahn will NEVER be an NFL head coach. I do not understand the hype-o-meter pull he has. He is a High School coach with a few good offensive ideas that work at the college level, but professionals will never buy into his persona and demeanor. He would be another Cam Cameron waiting to happen in the NFL ranks.
 
I love Gus Malzahn. Great coaching job this year.

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I am watching Jameis Winston because I think without changes in Miami, the Fins will be in contention for him next year.
 
Unless Malzhan was the coach of his beloved Michigan Wolverines, Ross wouldn't even think of hiring him or any other college coach for that mayter
 
trojanma said:
Malzahn would be an enormous risk.

Running an NFL team is a completely different animal.
I know all of you are think wow we missed out on Chip Kelly. The guy who inherited a loaded team in the worst division in the NFL and promptly lost in the first round of the Wild Card.

I will give you another example of a young college wiz kid that everyone wanted. Lane Kiffin or even Steve Spurrier who was a god in college flopped in the NFL and went right back to college in one of the toughest jobs in America and went right back to winning.

I am not saying that Malzahn is the right or wrong guy, but 8 years ago the guy was coaching High School. He has one year of experience at Auburn. He has done a fantastic job, but let him wade through some adversity. Being in the NFL is a completely different animal. Teams are much better at dissecting your weaknesses. Just see Spurrier's failed efforts at the NFL.

Bringing in Malzahn to the NFL as a head coach, you are essentially banking on him as some sort of savant.
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So much stuff I disagree with here. First, Chip Kelly inherited about the worst defense in the NFL and still got that team to the playoffs. He's got Nick effing Foles playing like an all time great. Not like a pro bowler, not like an all pro, but like a Johnny Unitas or Joe Montana. That's how good Foles' numbers are right now executing Kelly's offense. That's insane. And it's because there's actually more coaching innovation at the college and high school levels of football than there is at the NFL level. Look at the NFL -- it's a bunch of useless retreads like Jeff Fisher and Lovie Smith doing the same worthless crap over and over again.

How does having coached high school make him more of a risk? So you mean to tell me that a guy who has coached at different levels of the sport -- and been a total standout in them -- is more suspect to you than a guy with a mixed track record or someone who has toiled away in the coordinator ranks? High School coaches face their own challenges, and if anything I think that's an asset for the guy. Read his book. Seriously.

And you're not banking on him being a 'savant.' You're banking on him being damn good at coaching football. I think his track record says that he's damn good at coaching football. I think when Cam Newton is asked about Auburn and the first words out of his mouth are about how much he loves 'the warrior' Gus Malzahn that tells me a lot about his ability to coach at the highest level of the sport.

We're stuck in ~.500 hell. You don't want to gamble on greatness? I want to gamble on greatness.

But it's probably a moot point. I don't think he's coming here and I don't blame him. Every other hot coaching candidate has turned this team down for a reason.
 
J. David Wannyheimer said:
So much stuff I disagree with here. First, Chip Kelly inherited about the worst defense in the NFL and still got that team to the playoffs. He's got Nick effing Foles playing like an all time great. Not like a pro bowler, not like an all pro, but like a Johnny Unitas or Joe Montana. That's how good Foles' numbers are right now executing Kelly's offense. That's insane. And it's because there's actually more coaching innovation at the college and high school levels of football than there is at the NFL level. Look at the NFL -- it's a bunch of useless retreads like Jeff Fisher and Lovie Smith doing the same worthless crap over and over again.

How does having coached high school make him more of a risk? So you mean to tell me that a guy who has coached at different levels of the sport -- and been a total standout in them -- is more suspect to you than a guy with a mixed track record or someone who has toiled away in the coordinator ranks? High School coaches face their own challenges, and if anything I think that's an asset for the guy. Read his book. Seriously.

And you're not banking on him being a 'savant.' You're banking on him being damn good at coaching football. I think his track record says that he's damn good at coaching football. I think when Cam Newton is asked about Auburn and the first words out of his mouth are about how much he loves 'the warrior' Gus Malzahn that tells me a lot about his ability to coach at the highest level of the sport.

We're stuck in ~.500 hell. You don't want to gamble on greatness? I want to gamble on greatness.

But it's probably a moot point. I don't think he's coming here and I don't blame him. Every other hot coaching candidate has turned this team down for a reason.
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Cmon JD,
Chip Kelly's eagles beat ONE playoff team all season long, The Scot Tolzien lead GB packers.
I am not saying he isn't a good coach, but look at his results a little more objectively.
That offense had a lot of weapons on it and he exploited them very effectively.

I stand by my statement.
Bringing in a guy who is a complete novice to the NFL is a huge risk.
Could it work? Sure it could, but it would be a risk.

There is no doubt that the guy is an offensive innovator, but that does not make someone a successful HC in the NFL.
 
trojanma said:
Cmon JD,
Chip Kelly's eagles beat ONE playoff team all season long, The Scot Tolzien lead GB packers.
I am not saying he isn't a good coach, but look at his results a little more objectively.
That offense had a lot of weapons on it and he exploited them very effectively.
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Much more effectively than Andy Reid did. And Andy Reid is a pretty good coach when it comes to that. Reid sucks at managing the clock and adjusting during the game, but when it comes to utilizing his offensive talent, he's pretty damn good at it (see: Alex Smith and Jamaal Charles this year, McNabb and Westbrook...).

Look at how many points they can put on the board. That defense doesn't suck because of time of possesion, by the way. That defense was the reason the last coach got fired -- it was just bad in the first place. No talent.

Bringing in a guy who is a complete novice to the NFL is a huge risk.
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I'm no guru, but I've learned this in my life: in order to experience great success, you have to be willing to take great risks.

There is no doubt that the guy is an offensive innovator, but that does not make someone a successful HC in the NFL.
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He's been wildly successful as a head coach in high school and in college. Everywhere he's gone, he's not only been GREAT as a head coach, but he's been so great that he keeps getting promoted up to bigger and better opportunities. And each time he gets promoted to a better position or a higher level of ball, he surprises everyone by doing an amazing job and getting his team to overachieve. He's not just an X's and O's guy. His players love him. The guy can lead. Again, see what Cam Newton had to say about him.

And you want to keep the guy who insists Mike Sherman is a great offensive coordinator? My God, this fanbase wants to be stuck at 7-9 forever. There's a chance this guy could be the next Bill Walsh, and you want to stick with Philbin/Sherman/Coyle?
 
It's looking more and more like the guys on this board to like those 7 and 9 seasons might get their stupid wish with Ross keeping everyone in place.

Ozzy rules!!
 
J. David Wannyheimer said:
Much more effectively than Andy Reid did. And Andy Reid is a pretty good coach when it comes to that. Reid sucks at managing the clock and adjusting during the game, but when it comes to utilizing his offensive talent, he's pretty damn good at it (see: Alex Smith and Jamaal Charles this year, McNabb and Westbrook...).

Look at how many points they can put on the board. That defense doesn't suck because of time of possesion, by the way. That defense was the reason the last coach got fired -- it was just bad in the first place. No talent.



I'm no guru, but I've learned this in my life: in order to experience great success, you have to be willing to take great risks.



He's been wildly successful as a head coach in high school and in college. Everywhere he's gone, he's not only been GREAT as a head coach, but he's been so great that he keeps getting promoted up to bigger and better opportunities. And each time he gets promoted to a better position or a higher level of ball, he surprises everyone by doing an amazing job and getting his team to overachieve. He's not just an X's and O's guy. His players love him. The guy can lead. Again, see what Cam Newton had to say about him.

And you want to keep the guy who insists Mike Sherman is a great offensive coordinator? My God, this fanbase wants to be stuck at 7-9 forever. There's a chance this guy could be the next Bill Walsh, and you want to stick with Philbin/Sherman/Coyle?
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Boggles the mind, doesn't it
 
And I'm gonna go as far as to say this:

I don't think NFL coaching experience is as important as HEAD COACHING experience. I think the NFL is a giant circlejerk of retread individuals and stale philosophies. Nobody's innovated a damn thing at the NFL level since Bill Walsh forced Dick Lebeau and a few other guys to come up with ways to slow the WCO. Chip Kelly is making straight fools out of guys who have been successful NFL coaches for 30+ years.

I want a guy who has a great understanding of the game and can manage a football team. A coach who will coach his players and not his system. You know who believes in doing that? Gus Malzahn.
 
I am no guru either.
I can understand the excitement of a guy like Malzahn. We have been mediocre to bad so long you just want to swing for the fences.

I live in Birmingham AL. Auburn fans have been reborn. He is a god in Alabama right now alongside Saban.
I think the odds that Malzahn leave this situation are miniscule.

If you brought in Malzahn it would probably take a ****load of money, because he would be gambling away a very stable position for complete uncertainty. Plus you would have to pair him with a very experienced high end GM.
 
trojanma said:
I am no guru either.
If you brought in Malzahn it would probably take a ****load of money, because he would be gambling away a very stable position for complete uncertainty.
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Good news: Steve Ross has a ****load of money. He has been buying tickets to prevent blackouts since he bought the team and reportedly offered a certain coach TEN MILLION DOLLARS a year (just a rumor, but that's the number I heard). Steve Ross is like one of the three richest owners in the NFL.
 
J. David Wannyheimer said:
And I'm gonna go as far as to say this:

I don't think NFL coaching experience is as important as HEAD COACHING experience. I think the NFL is a giant circlejerk of retread individuals and stale philosophies. Nobody's innovated a damn thing at the NFL level since Bill Walsh forced Dick Lebeau and a few other guys to come up with ways to slow the WCO. Chip Kelly is making straight fools out of guys who have been successful NFL coaches for 30+ years.

I want a guy who has a great understanding of the game and can manage a football team. A coach who will coach his players and not his system. You know who believes in doing that? Gus Malzahn.
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I can appreciate that.
I think life coordinators are a huge risk as well.

I think this is why O'Brien shot up the rankings. Hot coordinator that was successful as the head guy.

I think there may be something to a guy that has experienced many levels over the guys that have sat in the same job in college a long time.
The college "rocks" like Schiano, Spurrier, Saban are too set in their ways and try too hard to transfer what they do their in the pros.
 
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