I liked Jay Cutler.
I don't hate Jay.
I love Ricky Williams and he was still on my list.
I liked Jay Cutler.
You said:Here is the actual quote:
"...A late 2 and 5 is compensation for a back-up QB..."
also, how can you trade for someone who isn't on "another team"?
I agree win and loss record should not be the one and only indicator. I really doubt we're going to win 6 or 7 games with Rosen or any other QB this year. Our roster is just not very good right now. He needs to be evaluated on how he does and not so much for the record. Having said that I believe it was a good trade but it should not stop us from drafting a QB in the first round in 2020.It is this illogical viewpoint that even if we win seven games with Rosen playing great football, we still need to draft Tua because he would have won double that according to fans. If Rosen plays at a high level then he has earned his chance. I am more interested in actual evaluations of the coming QB class instead of putting all our chips on one guy
again:You said:
"you don't get a team's starter"
To me, that implies the guy "starting" for said team.
Whatever, not worth argueing.
I won't comment on it any further.
Obviously this poster thinks Rosen ain't the solution but if Rosen goes 8-8 with this mediocre team 1 st year. He is a player. We wont need a QB. Only QB I want if Rosen fails is Trevor Lawrence. We have time til then to evaluate Rosen. I dont care what the circumstances is in 2021. If we have to give up 3 #1 picks to pick 1st in 2021 to get Trevor. You do it. That kid is going to be a Top 5 all time QB. Get it done.
That is just simply not true. Those were two separate deals. We could of picked at 62 this year and still had a 2nd next year. It was great maneuvering by Grier. I think its a good trade, like ive said many times. You take a shot on a talented young thrower for a 2nd and 5th. I am just saying, some people seem delusional on what we gave up and what the expectations are. If he is nothing more then a back up, that trade was a failure.
If Rosen gets us 6-7 wins with this team around him it will be nothing short of phenomenal.The main argument for acquiring Rosen is that he has a chance to be good, for a minimal price.
The flaw here is that most posters say “hey, if he bombs then we just go QB in 2020”. No downside, right?
Wrong.
It is VERY likely that he wins the starting job early on, and with a year already under his belt, he may grind us to 6 or 7 wins.
If that happens, most likely in my opinion, we will be out of the sweepstakes for a top QB in 2020. Trust me when I say that a QB needy team will not trade out of their top spot/s I’m 2020, regardless of the compensation offered.
So, a likely outcome is Fins in a draft purgatory position, again.
The only workaround is to start Fitzcake for the entirety (or most) of the season. And then let Rosen and Tua/Fromm etc battle for the starting position in 2020.
Not all of RTs detractors, necessarily thought he was a bum.Yet tannehill is a bum for doing the same with this horrible roster of garbage?
So you don't subscibe to that "bird in hand" axiom?
Fair enough.
"I am buying a new car but I think that the shiny new one next year just may be better so I am not going to see what this car can do for me over the next year so I can get a shot at the shiny new one."
"I am going out with the best girl in town right now but there is rumor about another one moving to town next year that may be prettier so I am holding out on making any kind of commitment."
Yet tannehill is a bum for doing the same with this horrible roster of garbage?
Or you buy a slightly used very low mileage 2019 performance car for 50¢ on the dollar since it depreciated after being driven off the lot and love driving it more than any car in the last 15 yearsIf you get a great deal on the car this year you buy it. Either you sale it next year for a good price and put that money toward your 2020 car or if things change you just make do with the 2019 car and pass on buying on next year.