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Ryan Tannehill's Deep Ball Hasn't Improved Since Texas A&M

Bad line play and playcalling affecting qb play is not a theory
Does bad QB play affect either of those, as well? How do we know which was causing which?

Hmm maybe watch an actual football game and not just look at box scores
We all watch the games. If that provided the incontrovertible knowledge necessary to adjudicate these issues, why do we have any disagreement about them in the forum?
 
Does bad QB play affect either of those, as well? How do we know which was causing which?

We all watch the games. If that provided the incontrovertible knowledge necessary to adjudicate these issues, why do we have any disagreement about them in the forum?

I don't think anyone is disputing our line was among the worst in dolphin history. One can use numbers to push their agenda by choosing which numbers they choose to see as important such as YPA or whatever.
Pure numbers are not without opinion because the opinion comes from which numbers to use and their actual benefit. Go back to 2002 and 2003 and you can use just pure numbers to say that Ricky Williams regressed mightily but that would be an assumption based on pure numbers. There is no way statistically to account for the other variables to go into football. You cannot account for predictability of the offense and lesser line play.
 
I don't think anyone is disputing our line was among the worst in dolphin history. One can use numbers to push their agenda by choosing which numbers they choose to see as important such as YPA or whatever.
Pure numbers are not without opinion because the opinion comes from which numbers to use and their actual benefit. Go back to 2002 and 2003 and you can use just pure numbers to say that Ricky Williams regressed mightily but that would be an assumption based on pure numbers. There is no way statistically to account for the other variables to go into football. You cannot account for predictability of the offense and lesser line play.
I'm disputing it. How shall we prove me wrong?
 
I'm disputing it. How shall we prove me wrong?
Well if you feel it wasn't then god bless you and your opinion lol. Its like saying such is such was the best qb of all time, there is not a number or stat that can prove that statement. YOu can create a number or an achievement you feel is the most important but in the end everything is subjective. Same with your so called qb theories
 
Well if you feel it wasn't then god bless you and your opinion lol. Its like saying such is such was the best qb of all time, there is not a number or stat that can prove that statement. YOu can create a number or an achievement you feel is the most important but in the end everything is subjective. Same with your so called qb theories
Well and like I said back when we started, if you want to say it's only your personal opinion that Tannehill will improve, we're good to go. :up:
 
Well and like I said back when we started, if you want to say it's only your personal opinion that Tannehill will improve, we're good to go. :up:

Its a fact that line play, playcalling and receivers affect qb play as for Tannehill improving its an opinion that he will
 
Also the entire premise is flawed you cannot compare his NFL play to his college play.
Im sure RGIII's deep ball numbers are not the same as in college and the same with Andrew Luck and it means absolutely nothing
 
Would you be happy if you wind up being wrong about Tanny?

he's already been proven wrong.... last year he told us how RT was such a good qb and ireland a boss for drafting him.... now, not so much...flip-flopping but always with SMUG and LAUGHS if you disagree with him... so cool



by the way, kudos to Shouright for another step in his obession about Tannehill, ruining a forum a thread at a time (always about the same topic, so interesting: different thread spamming the forum, with the same point, the same argument, the same stats)

go, Shou, go!!! and please, give me some other bad rep, because I find it amusing how you act (giving bad rep, but disabling yours, being an attention seeker and then whining if someone points it out and so on) :lol:
 
Its a fact that line play, playcalling and receivers affect qb play as for Tannehill improving its an opinion that he will
Does the line play, play-calling, and receiver play affect the QB more, or does the QB affect all of that more?
 
Bad line play and playcalling affecting qb play is not a theory

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Hmm maybe watch an actual football game and not just look at box scores

Arguing with shouright is maddening man. It's like he has to argue with anything but can only use numbers to do so. It doesn't take numbers to see how terrible the line was, or how can you put numbers on idiocracy of play calling. But I'm sure these will all come up in the next thread of "using obscure stats and big words trying to sound smart"
 
Has Cameron Wake's pass rush abilty regressed since he left the CFL? Apples and oranges
 
Personally I think that if he improves, it'll be due more to the acquisition of an offensive coordinator who's able to build a system around his strengths while hiding his weaknesses, rather than to significant individual improvement in his own right. I think he probably is what he is at this point. He now has over a thousand pass attempts in the NFL.

That's the best paragraph in this thread, or any Tannehill thread, IMO.

Tannehill lacks great feel for the game and his passes are too often on the same arc, not the ideal requirement for the play. He's passive and not a leader. I happened to watch Texas A&M vs. Duke tonight in the Peach Bowl from a few weeks ago. I was in Orlando at the time and missed many of the bowls, but taped them on DVR. I've been catching up. After watching that tape tonight, the posters who prefer Tannehill have got to be kidding. j-off-her-doll is far too kind to them. Manziel can make every throw. I can't identify one thing Tannehill does better, other than helping the under bettors. Manziel dropped a deep ball perfectly in the receiver's lap for a touchdown with 5 minutes remaining and A&M trailing by 10.

The good news is we ran the ball only 21 times per game. That's like trying to lose. If Tannehill performed at the same level while we averaged 25 or 26 rushes per game, I'd hold less hope that a changed offense could significantly benefit him. Kubiak's offense made the most sense to me, with all the attacking runs and play action off stretch plays.

I don't know what to expect from Lazor but I'll post the same thing as last offseason, that we need fewer shotgun snaps, more play action, virtually zero empty sets, and greater commitment to the run. Those are aids to any quarterback on Tannehill's level, not merely him.

A year from now I suspect I'll be able to copy and paste the same paragraph again.
 
2014 Will be Tannehills last year with the Dolphins as their starter. It is, and will be his last chance.
 
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