Salguero: The blame for the passing woes from 2 different angles

[phins_4_ever]

Is it Sunday yet? I hope Tannehill lights it up to spare us a week of garbage posts, overreactions, and psychological analysis of coaches!

Really? That's why you want him to light it up?

I want him to light it up so we would win and if he continues on that we didn't waste 3 years.

I guess to each its own.

 

[jlfin]

Well said...Philbin is starting to become somewhat of a Teflon Don. He sees and knows nothing....a much thinner Sgt. Schultz.

Nonsense. Philbin did not blame anyone (coaches or players).In a detailed manner he explained how all the moving parts in the passing game are not functioning in unison. He suggested in a diplomatic way, that the ENTIRE team needs to improve.
At this stage in the season it would be counter productive for a HC to start pointing fingers. Quite frankly, certain things need to stay in the locker room and are none of the media's (or our) business.
Salguero is trying to manufacture a story where none exists and those of you who have an anti Philbin agenda can't resist the chance to pile on.

 

[MD]

Motivation falls on the players. I don't need the coach to be a rah, rah guy I need him to be an X's and O's guy. If we need a motivational coach then hire Tony Robbins as head coach. These guys get paid millions of dollars to play a game...if they're not excited to play on Sunday's they shouldn't be playing football...enough of this bull crap about blaming the coaches for every little thing. Players get paid to PLAY.

Maybe you don't need a rah rah guy but that doesn't mean nobody does. A lot of players in today's game can't see beyond the fame and fortune and need a strong personality to keep them focused. It's not as if this was the first time that Joe has been portrayed as being out of touch or deflected responsibility. Obviously he realized he had a problem because he has attempted to change his approach as a head coach. The players as much as admitted that this "change" in his approach this season was welcomed. Perhaps that "change" has worn off in the locker room.

Execution is only a part of this teams problems.

 

[Spesh]

Per Volin, Philbin successfully lobbied for Ross to fire Turner without cause, which means that Turner will receive ongoing compensation from the team.

Turner’s pay will be offset by any money he receives from another team, if Turner finds another job in coaching. If he wants, he could take the next two years off and still receive the money he would have gotten from the Dolphins.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...olphins-wont-try-to-block-jim-turners-salary/

“Anyone who knows Philbin knows how much it hurt him to fire his dear friend Mike Sherman. In fact, we hear Philbin nearly pulled a Mike Munchak and fell on the sword himself. Sherman, though, convinced him to stay with this logic: If Philbin had quit, he would have cost every other assistant on the staff his job as well. This way, only Sherman lost a job.”

http://fansided.com/2014/01/11/repo...philbin-nearly-quit-forced-fire-mike-sherman/

Philbin's seemingly pathological desire to cover his coaches while slamming his players(remember the leadership council? Thats hilarious in hindsight) is something that has unsettled me for awhile. There were reports that he told potential GM's he might bench Tannehill if he struggles this season...but he fights tooth and nail for Jim ****ing Turner?

I dont know why the players of this team would fight hard for this man.

 

[whizafriz]

I think there's 2 kinds of coaching philosophies:
A. you have a strict system, and demand all players to fit into this system as a streamlined cog.
If the play breaks, the system thus falters, but you know what your expected result is each game and are striving for perfection.

B. you have a flexible system that allows plays and strategy to change based on the featured players strengths and weaknesses.
Not just playcalling, but actually deciding How the player will be utilized, what formations/positions they thrive in, etc.
If a player cant execute, you adapt the plays/patterns to what he can do, or what the next guy in line can do.

Many coaches probably use a mix of both, but Philbin says to me that he's very much strict-system.
I think roy_miami said it in another thread, but we tend to win X% of our games only when players are performing at at least X%
Philbin's chasing perfection in his system, and perfection is not easy to achieve with a young and developing team.

 

[andyahs]

Well said...Philbin is starting to become somewhat of a Teflon Don. He sees and knows nothing....a much thinner Sgt. Schultz.

When Lazor was hired he wanted full and complete control of the offense so when the offense fails he gets full blame.

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[roy_miami]

I agree there is a lack of execution but Knowshon and Wallace in week 2 appeared to be the only guys fired up. Can you honestly say they came out the first half looking like they were ready for battle?

So who coached up Moreno and Wallace then?

 

[hoops]

ha ha i just got done taking a look at the pats beat down of minnesota in their building no less taking 4 ints from cassel in the process..,the team we beat by 13 in week 1 despite missed opportunities on offense...just the check i need to put our current situation in proper perspective...

 

[Rhoadsy13]

This article is absurd. WHY NOT hold the players ACCOUNTABLE?? Miller catch the freakin ball, OL block & open holes, THill you have to make plays. Look Philbin is ultimately responsible but IMO he told the truth when he was asked. I like that Lazor took the responsibility but the players need to know they didn't play well & I'm sure it coached up in meetings but the players must make the plays on the field.

 

[TheJetsBlow]

Philbin is a ****ing ****sucker. I still can't believe he sat on the ****ing ball at the end of the first half.

 

[MD]

This article is absurd. WHY NOT hold the players ACCOUNTABLE?? Miller catch the freakin ball, OL block & open holes, THill you have to make plays. Look Philbin is ultimately responsible but IMO he told the truth when he was asked. I like that Lazor took the responsibility but the players need to know they didn't play well & I'm sure it coached up in meetings but the players must make the plays on the field.

I would like to believe that he holds them accountable in private.

 

[Dr. Phin]

I don't think it is that big a deal; however, I do like that Lazor is putting some of the blame on himself.

 

[dolfin530]

Really? That's why you want him to light it up?

I want him to light it up so we would win and if he continues on that we didn't waste 3 years.

I guess to each its own.

I want to win also and I'm not jumping ship after 2 games. The 2nd half of the pats game he was accurate. Buffalo always makes our life tough. I still believe in Tannehill. So I hope he does great to get things going. Because 2 weeks of crappy posts will suck! I am reserving judgment until the end of the year.

 

[1972fins]

All philbin had to say after he finished his comments is Mr Lazor has to fix this that's why he is here, maybe his system is not that good, nobody brings this up.
To me the offensive plan for the Bills game wasn't good enough.
Lazor may be a problem

 

[andyahs]

Philbin is a ****ing ****sucker. I still can't believe he sat on the ****ing ball at the end of the first half.

This has what to do with this thread?

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