Saquon Barkley - The Next Ladainian Tomlinson

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  1. DKphin

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    Unless there is a video of him smoking a Bong on YouTube, I do not think we have a chance in Hell of drafting him.

     
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    If they want him they have to go up and get him. I think he could be sitting there at #5 when Denver is on the board. What if they offered James and picks?
     
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    On the contrary, I have been predicting all along that he will indeed slide and we will draft him.

    I hate this idea.

    He is nowhere near the star some of you think he is.

    He will be Ronnie Brown part 2.

    Yes, he can do it all, but he isn't bound for the HOF like you some of you think. That guy is Vita Vea, and I'm afraid the Dolphins will be drafting the wrong player as usual this spring.
     
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    I can critique any player. I would like to see Barkley run a little harder between the tackles, but outside of that there isn't much to critique in his game. IMO Barkley is the real deal at RB. Comparisons to Tomlinson are no far fetched.
     
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    Count me down as a no for a trade up to 5 for a RB. If you trade to 5 you better be getting a QB or major defensive player, the ones that cost big dollars in FA for example.
     
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    Trading up for any player other than a QB is stupid. Trading up for a running back is downright negligence.
     
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    I can get behind the idea of trading up for a rb but the guy better be Ricky Williams
     
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    not a chance he is there at 11 and there is NO WAY they would trade up for a RB
     
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    The point of this thread?

    Its not even worth moving to the draft forum.
     
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    I will say this, I think 5 years from now he won't even be the best running back in this draft. This is by far one of the deepest running back draft classes in recent memory. I don't know who will be better than him but there are a ton of options that could surpass him. Personally, I would just use a mid round pick on Ballage out of Arizona State. 3 down backs simply aren't a necessity in today's NFL.
     
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    So he's going to be one of the greatest TD scorers at his position? Thats lofty expectations that will likely never be reached in a passing league.
     
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    Tomlinson has elite vision and feel, two areas Barkley struggles. Barkley is still worth a high pick, but not because his game is similar to Tomlinson.
     
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    Barkley is probably the most over hyped draft prospect of our lifetime. The guy is good, but not that good...... For comparison he didn't put up the numbers that Dalvin Cook did, and the Big 10 is trash...... Also take a look what he does in big games....... Don't take my word for it, look these things up, and I guarantee your opinion will change!
     
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    Put together a top ten players without listing quarterbacks and this running back and you have an idea of what the top ten draft order should be. None of the quarterbacks are can’t miss type and in most years a Josh Allen or Sam Darnold could be had at eighteen or so. I don’t even think Cleveland will take one. Even a sure thing running back can be had in the second round any year. They have hyped up the quarterbacks and this one running back, but it’s not really a great draft in some ways. Excellent draft for depth and quality guys to flesh out a roster in my opinion.
     
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    I like Barkley a lot any wouldn't mind drafting him at 11. But RBs are a dime a dozen in the NFL. And we have a good RB in Drake already who can be dynamic. So I would be upset if we traded up for Barkley. Look at teams who have won superbowls in recent years and most of them did not have bell cow RBs. Tomlinson was one of favorite RBs and he never got a ring. We need a complete roster to win a superbowl. RBs can be had later. See David Johnson, L. Bell, and A. Kamara
     
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    I think you mean criticize.
     
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    Unless he plays defense, why the hell would we want a RB with our 1st pick?
     
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    No he meant critique. He used it properly. Twice.
     
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    There's so much ignorance in this post it's amazing. Just shows anyone can post on a message board but no one will ever take you seriously from now on. "He can do it all but he's Ronnie Brown 2." Just so dumb.
     
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    We have Drake who is excellent at what he does. Frank Gore is here to get us those short yards when needed. He'll be tough around the goal line. Pick a RB on day 3 or day 2 late. If Mark Walton from the U of Miami is there in round 3, 4 area you have to take a hard look.

    We have bigger fish to fry in this draft. The first thing we need to find out is if any of the top 4 QBs will drop to #11. If not, we have to focus on defense and get the B.P.A. could be Fitz, Veh, Edmunds, James, Nelson, Smith etc. It's almost guaranteed that one of those 6 players will be there at #11 for Miami. I think Edmunds will be gone so the pick should come down to Veh or Smith unless one of the true premium blue chippers fall, someone like Chubbs, we've seen a lot of crazy stuff on draft day.
     
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    If your going to call someone out and personally attack, it'd be nice to know why you disagree. Your post didn't really add any value to the conversation.
     
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    It would be a wasted pick. Our O line needs to prove their worth before making them block for a top talent. If our O line still sucks (For whatever reason) then he will never be all he is capable of.
     
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    I'll say it again, yes he is a great player and would add a dynamic player to the Phins if they drafted him, but we have bigger needs than at RB.
     
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    If he falls they should draft him but not trade up for him, deep RB draft class.
     
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    Is this sarcasm? I hope it is. If not, it's without a down the most absurd draft related comment of all time. Any draft. Beats any comments anyone made guaranteeing a HOF career for Ryan Leaf. Barkley overrated, but Vea bound for the HOF. Shoot me now.

    I do not support trading up for Barkley or any other RB but let's get real here. He's the real deal. Probably the cleanest prospect in this entire draft along with Nelson. Vea is on the same level as 3-4 players at his position, and is not a stand out prospect at all. You can argue that Payne, Hurst, or Tavern are at his level if not better.

    I'm going to laugh my *** off when someone reaches for Vea. Unless it's us. In that case I'll cry.
     
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    To say on one hand that "he can do it all" and then in the next sentence says "he's Ronnie Brown2." Huh? You don't see the stupidity there? First off, he's nothing like Ronnie Brown, or any current NFL player for that matter. Second, we have lots of other needs, but by some miracle if he were to drop we would have to consider taking the best playmaker in the draft, or at least grab some major picks in a trade. At the combine he showed what he is--the best player in the draft and the closest thing to Barry Sanders I've seen in a long time. I've seen both Barry and him in person and they are both ridiculous playmakers--speed, vision, character, all of it. A lot of people who are posting he's not all that show their ignorance and will eat their words on this kid. I think he's definitely going #1 or #2, so it's just mental masturbation to think he's falling to 11. He isn't. Now is that contributing to the value of the conversation?
     
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    It's NEVER a wasted pick to take the best player and playmaker in the draft. Yeah let's take a guard or a d-lineman instead. Unbelievable.
     
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    Yes now it is as you have stated your points. Personally, I would never draft a running back in round 1 just due to how much the position has been devalued. The farthest I see Barkley dropping to is the Colts at 6 so the conversation really is a moot point.

    I just get annoyed when people outright bash a post without reasoning being posted as well. It just derails a thread
     
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    If you don't have the proper pieces in place for a player to succeed, it is a WASTED PICK. Dallas was able to take Elliott for one reason only, the investment in the previous years to beef up their top rated oline, a top WR, a dominant TE and a veteran QB.

    But this is all moot, because he isn't falling and someone else will find his value superior to that of the man opening the holes for him.
     
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    My dream pick been beating this drum thinking of how he could slide past Tampa. Then goedert or gesecki in the 2nd and put up 40points a game. He actually has a very good yards after contact 3.6 I think so he doesn’t go down as easy as people think but ya his negative is looking for the big play to often. He Is a better prospect then zeke or gurly and will be very very good.
     
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    I disagree the kid takes your oline to the next level or beyond, penn states sucked 78 out of 120 or something. Almost bottom of the barrel at pass blocking but yet run blocking rated in the top half. Watch the tapes it was all Barkley. Their run blocking sucked. Also defines his only negative of looking for the big play every play. He had to. No one should be passing on this kid. Plus I think we did a damn good job of addressing the oline this offseason. I wouldn’t give 2 ****s if they traded every pick this year 4 him. Worth it. I know it’s not reasonable but I’d be dam excited.
     
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    If Barkley falls to Miami (Doubt it) you take him and don't look back. There's something special about him but as others said this draft is deep at RB's.
     
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    They'd be morons.
     
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    Yet you opened it and responded.
     
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    Gase, like Philbin, wants the short pass to mostly take the place of the run. This is why he wants RBs who can catch out of the backfield. This is why a slot WR under two different Head Coaches running a dink-and-dunk offense set a receiving record. Neither Philbin nor Gase desired an o-line that was capable of a smash-mouth ball-control running game to run out the clock when leading. The offensive philosophy of these Coaches has been to throw it short (or behind the line of scrimmage), and hope that the receiver (WR, TE, or RB) gains enough yards after the catch to get a first down. Their so-called running game has been a feeble attempt to keep the defense honest. When they did have success running the ball, it never lasted. Mike Sherman said in an interview that he wanted to keep running when it was working, but Philbin said no. Gase has admitted that he told his OC to remind him to run the ball because he'd rather throw it all of the time. IMO, using a high draft pick on a RB with this style of offense would be a complete waste. (Which is why I'm looking forward to the next Head Coach!)
     

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