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Say goodbye to Jim Turner...

I dont disagree that Pouncey will skate by...but im growing more and more alarmed by him. It seems like whenever theres something sketchy going on with the players of this franchise Pouncey is heavily involved.

Hernandez, drugs, Wells report...its all starting to add up. And while little can be definitively proven, its starting to paint a picture on the guy. The pattern of behavior doesnt strike me as a kid just having fun, but instead it seems like a guy who's personal problems are about to escalate and blow up his career. Despite his talent, i would not mind getting him off this roster as quickly as possible.

I don't know. If Ireland were still here, I would agree but he's not. The Wells report said that Philbin is dedicated to building integrity on the team. They may opted to ax Pouncey to preserve the integrity of the team. Especially if Hickey is on board with that philosophy.
 
I dont disagree that Pouncey will skate by...but im growing more and more alarmed by him. It seems like whenever theres something sketchy going on with the players of this franchise Pouncey is heavily involved.

Hernandez, drugs, Wells report...its all starting to add up. And while little can be definitively proven, its starting to paint a picture on the guy. The pattern of behavior doesnt strike me as a kid just having fun, but instead it seems like a guy who's personal problems are about to escalate and blow up his career. Despite his talent, i would not mind getting him off this roster as quickly as possible.


I agree with your concerns regarding Pouncey. His behavior is "shady" and it could possibly blow up. I think they try to retain him when his contract expires, but the front office should come up with a creative contact that will protect them.
 
Turner should have been shown the door just based on how bad the O-line played, forget about this nonsense.

I thought he looked a little in over his head on Hard Knocks to be honest.

When I look at other O-LIne coaches in the NFL I don't see Turner
 
I don't know. If Ireland were still here, I would agree but he's not. The Wells report said that Philbin is dedicated to building integrity on the team. They may opted to ax Pouncey to preserve the integrity of the team. Especially if Hickey is on board with that philosophy.

A fair point, one that slipped my mind. Philbin hasnt hesitated to push for players to be cut/traded in the past and we do have a new GM who has no ties to Pouncey. I was just looking at it as "former first round pick" type of situation, but your right, theres a legitimate chance we could throw him out.
 
Between now and the draft, I would expect Dennis Hickey to test the trade value of Mike Pouncey. Yes, he has shown signs of being a Grade-A knucklehead with his ties to the Aaron Hernandez investigation and the Jonathan Martin situation, but he's also a Pro Bowl player. If the Dolphins can get a second- or third-round pick for him, I wouldn't be surprised to see them move him. If they can't, Pouncey plays out the last year of his rookie deal and the team figures out the center position in 2015.

I am so sick of hearing this about Pouncey! Aaron Hernandez does not play or ever played with the miami dolphins ever! If you want to get rid of him based on the connection with Hernandez than I guess the Patriots should cut Brady too? The guy was his friend and he made a stupid mistake with the hat but let it go and stop harping on it as a reason you want to cut someone. And before you say it is not just Hernandez and it is the drugs allegations, where has been Pouncey been convicted of ANYTHING? stop having such a knee jerk reaction to everything.
 
I am so sick of hearing this about Pouncey! Aaron Hernandez does not play or ever played with the miami dolphins ever! If you want to get rid of him based on the connection with Hernandez than I guess the Patriots should cut Brady too? The guy was his friend and he made a stupid mistake with the hat but let it go and stop harping on it as a reason you want to cut someone. And before you say it is not just Hernandez and it is the drugs allegations, where has been Pouncey been convicted of ANYTHING? stop having such a knee jerk reaction to everything.

Its not one individual situation, its the beginning of an alarming pattern of behavior with new evidence popping up every few months. Every time theres something questionable going on Pouncey is apparently neck deep in it. While i general find "guilt by association" disgusting i also believe in "wheres theres smoke theres fire". And that smoke is starting to flow out of Pouncey's general direction.

None of us can prove anything. If we could, he'd probably be in jail. But its starting to seem like theres a trainwreck coming and some of us want to avoid it. When the ****s about the hit the fan, its best to step to the side.

If anything Pouncey reminds me of Michael Vick early in his career. The Ron Mexico incident, his questionable acquaintances, the water bottle incident at the airport...none if it particularly damning by themselves, but they suggested Vick was lacking in integrity. And then came out that Vick was involved in even worse things then what was publicly revealed. While im not suggesting Pouncey is doing anything like Vick was, i won't be surprised if Pouncey was arrested in the near future either.
 
Its not one individual situation, its the beginning of an alarming pattern of behavior with new evidence popping up every few months. Every time theres something questionable going on Pouncey is apparently neck deep in it. While i general find "guilt by association" disgusting i also believe in "wheres theres smoke theres fire". And that smoke is starting to flow out of Pouncey's general direction.

None of us can prove anything. If we could, he'd probably be in jail. But its starting to seem like theres a trainwreck coming and some of us want to avoid it. When the ****s about the hit the fan, its best to step to the side.

If anything Pouncey reminds me of Michael Vick early in his career. The Ron Mexico incident, his questionable acquaintances, the water bottle incident at the airport...none if it particularly damning by themselves, but they suggested Vick was lacking in integrity. And then came out that Vick was involved in even worse things then what was publicly revealed. While im not suggesting Pouncey is doing anything like Vick was, i won't be surprised if Pouncey was arrested in the near future either.

Your concerns are valid, but I'm not yet ready to trade him away, unless someone makes an offer that is hard to refuse. I think he sticks around.
 
I would have fired him before Sherman just on the OL play alone, with this report on top of it I would sue his ass in court and try to recoup some of the money I paid him last yr then fire him.....he's a bum with no balls to let people under his supervision get abused.....
 
Turner was kept around to be the sacrificial lamb after the finding were released. They have already hired his replacement. The guy was a bone head for not controlling the players, and now for sticking around to be fired. What an idiot. He should have quit to save some element of respect.

Yeah seriously, how has he Not quit by now? He must be getting the parting gift of a lifetime or something.
 
Its not one individual situation, its the beginning of an alarming pattern of behavior with new evidence popping up every few months. Every time theres something questionable going on Pouncey is apparently neck deep in it. While i general find "guilt by association" disgusting i also believe in "wheres theres smoke theres fire". And that smoke is starting to flow out of Pouncey's general direction.

None of us can prove anything. If we could, he'd probably be in jail. But its starting to seem like theres a trainwreck coming and some of us want to avoid it. When the ****s about the hit the fan, its best to step to the side.

If anything Pouncey reminds me of Michael Vick early in his career. The Ron Mexico incident, his questionable acquaintances, the water bottle incident at the airport...none if it particularly damning by themselves, but they suggested Vick was lacking in integrity. And then came out that Vick was involved in even worse things then what was publicly revealed. While im not suggesting Pouncey is doing anything like Vick was, i won't be surprised if Pouncey was arrested in the near future either.

I couldn't agree more.....Pouncey is one of those guys who is as dirty as the next but somehow doesn't get caught, but when he does, it will be ugly.....
 
Turner was kept around to be the sacrificial lamb after the finding were released. They have already hired his replacement. The guy was a bone head for not controlling the players, and now for sticking around to be fired. What an idiot. He should have quit to save some element of respect.

he was dead man walking but this way he gets paid, no one going to hire this clown for a while.....
 
Trade Pouncey? Another 1st rounder given away? yeah, that happens here.
 
Its not one individual situation, its the beginning of an alarming pattern of behavior with new evidence popping up every few months. Every time theres something questionable going on Pouncey is apparently neck deep in it. While i general find "guilt by association" disgusting i also believe in "wheres theres smoke theres fire". And that smoke is starting to flow out of Pouncey's general direction.

None of us can prove anything. If we could, he'd probably be in jail. But its starting to seem like theres a trainwreck coming and some of us want to avoid it. When the ****s about the hit the fan, its best to step to the side.

If anything Pouncey reminds me of Michael Vick early in his career. The Ron Mexico incident, his questionable acquaintances, the water bottle incident at the airport...none if it particularly damning by themselves, but they suggested Vick was lacking in integrity. And then came out that Vick was involved in even worse things then what was publicly revealed. While im not suggesting Pouncey is doing anything like Vick was, i won't be surprised if Pouncey was arrested in the near future either.

He's like the guy that you can never prove did anything but he's always in the background of the picture. Something is definitely amiss there.
 
I'm only up to page 6... but I cant believe we're talking about professional, full grown men... It sounds like something a 13 year old would complain about..
 
Armando Salguero ‏@ArmandoSalguero 23s

Dolphins source just texted me what everyone is assuming: "Not done yet but Turner cannot survive this."
 
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