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newpilot82 said:
It depends who’s on the board. Stewart is a combine freak but this isn’t a track team, in spite of what they seem to put together sometimes.

It’s also how guys like John Ross end up going in the top ten.
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Ok, he is more than a combine freak, I watched a lot of his tape. He plays the game in way that will translate well to the NFL. I also see a player who is doing exactly what he was told to do in the defensive scheme and getting a lot pressures but not sacks. That being said his coaching for entire DL at Texas A+M, seems well sloppy......like really sloppy. I wonder what real coaching will do for the kid. I like this kid a lot.
 
newpilot82 said:
It depends who’s on the board. Stewart is a combine freak but this isn’t a track team, in spite of what they seem to put together sometimes.

It’s also how guys like John Ross end up going in the top ten.
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If you want a 'safe' pick @13, you go DT... but most DTs just don't end up giving you much pass rush. Safe would also be a player like Banks, who will likely be a very good, but not elite Guard.

I won't sulk if we go that route, but I'm not sure that this is the way to build a winner.
 
Feverdream said:
If you want a 'safe' pick @13, you go DT... but most DTs just don't end up giving you much pass rush. Safe would also be a player like Banks, who will likely be a very good, but not elite Guard.

I won't sulk if we go that route, but I'm not sure that this is the way to build a winner.
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There are too many DTs in this draft to take one at 13 IMO. A trade back is ideal there, but you need a partner . Banks would probably be my choice, but I would also like to see defensive players, other than Guard.

That said, if they only drafted linemen on either side in the first three rounds, I would be happy.

Grier needs to hit on all three top 100 picks he has though
 
newpilot82 said:
There are too many DTs in this draft to take one at 13 IMO. A trade back is ideal there, but you need a partner . Banks would probably be my choice, but I would also like to see defensive players, other than Guard.

That said, if they only drafted linemen on either side in the first three rounds, I would be happy.

Grier needs to hit on all three top 100 picks he has though
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Agree... and Stewart is the DE that I'd take. He has the highest ceiling of any of them, and I prefer drafting for ceiling than floor.
 
JamesWsenior said:
Somewhere, a long time ago, someone said the same thing about Iggy 😂
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The weird thing was that he was supposed to be the 'safe' pick. Here was a guy who was SEC tested... Devonte Smith said that he was the best CB that he had faced.

I would cite Iggy as the EXACT type of 'safe' pick that we've seen go tits up.
 
Feverdream said:
I've been extremely high on him for just this reason. We've needed a young big-edge for a couple of years now. Since Ogbah's back injuries began, we just haven't had a guy who could play run AND pass well... forcing us to platoon more than I would have liked; platooning gives the offense a clear sign as to what they can do against us.

The question on Stewart is whether or not he can become a high sacks guy, and I do think this is why he lost weight and came into the combine with the goal of showing the world what he could do in that area, after A+M used him poorly throughout his tenure there.

If he goes back to 280, which we both expect, he can play 3-4 end on running downs, and 4-3 DT on passing downs, and become a true 3 down player.

I've readily admitted that he is a major bust risk, and I've said that from the beginning. If he could become our starting DE and get 7-8 sacks per year, he'd be a gift... if he could reach double figures, he'll be a star,
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Looking at the entire current depth chart, the glaring weak spot is Dickerson as the DE opposite Sieler. Since Stewart could fill that role conceivably, he should be under consideration. We could upgrade the NT depth in the mid rounds.
 
Jamesw said:
If either of them are available at 13 would you pull the trigger?
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Stewart, yes, though I slightly prefer Nolen for the same role. Has to be beef on the hoof, though. One line or the other. No WRs and no DBs in the 1st, IMO.
 
MrClean said:
Looking at the entire current depth chart, the glaring weak spot is Dickerson as the DE opposite Sieler. Since Stewart could fill that role conceivably, he should be under consideration. We could upgrade the NT depth in the mid rounds.
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Agree... there are some other DT/DE types we could draft, but Stewart or Mykel Williams are the ones who look like they'll eventually be high sacks guys. They'll lighter than the Nolan/Harmon guys.

Yes, I like Stewart a lot, but there ARE other ways to do it.
 
Well this would suck

Really think his lack of production is way more due to the scheme, especially if they ask him to shade the inside of the tackle so much as the other edge rushers aren’t asked to do that ….seems he was dominating at the senior bowl in pure pass rush reps
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Finsup1981 said:
Well this would suck

Really think his lack of production is way more due to the scheme, especially if they ask him to shade the inside of the tackle so much as the other edge rushers aren’t asked to do that ….seems he was dominating at the senior bowl in pure pass rush reps
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Id buy into that more if he had better bend to attack the outside shoulder with
 
hoops said:
Id buy into that more if he had better bend to attack the outside shoulder with
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It sounds like you envision him more as a 265 lb Edge, rather than a 290 lb IDL, 5 to 3 technique. If we draft him, I'd expect he'd be used just as Campbell was last year or close to it.
 
Feverdream said:
Agree... there are some other DT/DE types we could draft, but Stewart or Mykel Williams are the ones who look like they'll eventually be high sacks guys. They'll lighter than the Nolan/Harmon guys.

Yes, I like Stewart a lot, but there ARE other ways to do it.
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Would you be as happy with Mykel as a replacement for Campbell as you'd be with Stewart?
Do you envision that Mykel would address the DL rather than being another Edge at an already deep position?
 
MrClean said:
It sounds like you envision him more as a 265 lb Edge, rather than a 290 lb IDL, 5 to 3 technique. If we draft him, I'd expect he'd be used just as Campbell was last year or close to it.
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280 lbs is still base 43 de size sure you could kick him inside in the sub but top 15 I want the outside pass rush as part of the package and more than just bull rush. I’m sure he will play closer to 280 lbs he dropped that weight to run fast and help his draft stock but I think you’re traveling down the wrong path to use him like Campbell. Who is more of an interior player and carries 300 lbs…
 
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