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Should Ireland and/or Philbin be Fired?

Who, if anyone, should be fired?


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I have had enough of all of these guys. Ireland failed big time this year. That sorry excuse of an offensive line he put together (even when they were playing with the two guys they lost) should get him fired. Then the overpaying of Wheeler who has turned out to be a bellow average LB.

Then you have Philbin and the clowns on is staff. Why does this team come out flat in most games? Why does Sherman go back to things that aren't working and abandon stuff that actually does work? Why does Coyle and this overpaid defense get pushed around like a bunch of rag dolls so often?

Ross needs to get rid of this circus. None of them has proven to be competent in their jobs.
 
Since the preseason I've been saying that the Dolphins look unprepared for the game. Everybody blows and they all gotta go.
 
Before last night's game, 67% of the forum thought Philbin shouldn't be fired.

Now that number has decreased to 57%, on the basis of people who hadn't voted previously, alone.
 
want some food for thought??

Then read this from Armando

Word of advice: Ross should stop looking into Philbin’s eyes and look instead to the football field where the Dolphins look rudderless.

More advice: Instead of listening to his coach’s voice, he should listen to the fans who are saying, “If you are going to start over, Mr. Ross, start over from the ground up. Don’t offer half solutions.”

If Ross turns Ireland into his scapegoat after this season, he would be making basically the same mistake he made last year. Last year, Ross fired Tony Sparano and kept the general manager who had worked with the coach since 2008.

So Ross decided it was Sparano’s fault the Dolphins were failing and not Ireland’s. Now, if he lowers the guillotine on Ireland but spares Philbin and his staff, once again the Dolphins would be an uneven organization.

By that I mean the Dolphins wouldn’t be hiring a general manager and coach who are in synch. They would be hiring a general manager who has to accept the current coach, just like this time around they hired a coach who could accept working with Ireland.

And what might that mean? The general manager equivalent of Jeff Fisher or other experienced personnel men will decline the chance to come to Miami.

Ross on Monday spoke of two committees that will advise him on what to do next. I’m not on that committee. But here’s my advice:

Ask questions, sir.

Ask why Dion Jordan, your third overall draft pick, plays only sparingly.

Why your two high-round rookie corners don’t play but you trust Nolan Carroll, who the last coaching staff figured out was not good enough but is playing despite being not good enough.

Ask why this defense misses so many tackles. Still.

Ask why the offense has no identity. I mean, seriously, what are the Dolphins really good at doing offensively?

Do they use possession passing really well? No.

Do they run the football really well and stick with it? No.

Do they spread defenses out and use their deep threat Mike Wallace to strike fear? Well, that was the plan. But unfortunately, it was Ireland’s plan.

And the coaching staff apparently didn’t get the memo.

About the Dolphins coaching staff: Offensive coordinator Mike Sherman seemed out of tricks by the middle of the first half. His team was down 15-0 and the Bucs had figured out the Miami snap count, figured out your love of slant routes, and figured out your love of the wide receiver screen.

This is a terrible time for the Dolphins. And Ross seems prepared to address the terrible as well as possible. The hope is he doesn’t settle for incomplete fixes.

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/11/12/3747622_p2/armando-salguero-miami-dolphins.html#storylink=cpy
 
A week and a half to prepare for the worst team in the league and you put that garbage on the field??? GTFO. All of em', top to bottom. Loyal fans don't deserve this crap.

Almost replica of the fiasco vs the Bills.

1. First half no show

2. Decent third quarter.

3. 4TH quarter collapse.

Inexcusable to have two bye weeks and perform at such an inept level.
 
I wish Joe was like Norv Turner at least in that he coached up QB's to high levels...he does not.
 
I want to change my vote. Both should be fired today.

You can still have your investigation. Ireland and Philbin can be interviewed from the cabs of their respective moving vans.
 
Then read this from Armando

More advice: Instead of listening to his coach’s voice, he should listen to the fans who are saying, “If you are going to start over, Mr. Ross, start over from the ground up. Don’t offer half solutions.”

If Ross turns Ireland into his scapegoat after this season, he would be making basically the same mistake he made last year. Last year, Ross fired Tony Sparano and kept the general manager who had worked with the coach since 2008.

So Ross decided it was Sparano’s fault the Dolphins were failing and not Ireland’s. Now, if he lowers the guillotine on Ireland but spares Philbin and his staff, once again the Dolphins would be an uneven organization.

By that I mean the Dolphins wouldn’t be hiring a general manager and coach who are in synch. They would be hiring a general manager who has to accept the current coach, just like this time around they hired a coach who could accept working with Ireland.

And what might that mean? The general manager equivalent of Jeff Fisher or other experienced personnel men will decline the chance to come to Miami.

This is the big problem with firing only Jeff Ireland. The new GM will inevitably want to bring in his own head coach. Philbin Will stick around for another year or two and then we will be starting over with the new head coach. So in my opinion firing ONLY Jeff Ireland will set us back probably two years. Joe Philbin and Jeff Ireland both have to go!
 
Before last night's game, 67% of the forum thought Philbin shouldn't be fired.

Now that number has decreased to 57%, on the basis of people who hadn't voted previously, alone.
And now 55%.

Philbin's stock is dropping quickly.
 
I waited until today to vote.

I have now voted.

No more patience for Philbin, or Ireland.
 
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