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Should the Miami Dolphins Trade Cameron Wake?

Wake will cost $9.7M on the cap next year. We would save $6.9M if traded or cut. Have to at least consider it. If you think we can contend, have to keep him. If not, should trade him to a contender. He deserves a playoff shot before he retires.
 
Don't mind seeing him go to a legit contender. They guy deserves it. Don't want another Jason Taylor situation.
 
I'm amazed at some of the responses here.....lol.....for the RIGHT price everyone is tradable guys. To say we "want him to retire as a dolphin " is so stupid. You think BB cares about anyone retiring as a patriot? No, he gets the most out of his players and trades them at the RIGHT time for picks and every year NE has a ton of picks. They ones he can't trade he lets go in free agency and gets more picks for that too. BB wins cause he doesn't get attached to players.

Read my post again. No one here is an actual coach or GM so it really doesn't matter. Speaking for the majority, we are well aware of how BB runs his organization. Nothing wrong with a little fandom being displayed on a fan message board about one of the better players to don our uniform and dishing out a little respect in his favor. What's laughable is coming across like a hard ass and pretending you actually have a say in the situation or insight that no one else has ever grasped.
 
Read my post again. No one here is an actual coach or GM so it really doesn't matter. Speaking for the majority, we are well aware of how BB runs his organization. Nothing wrong with a little fandom being displayed on a fan message board about one of the better players to don our uniform and dishing out a little respect in his favor. What's laughable is coming across like a hard ass and pretending you actually have a say in the situation or insight that no one else has ever grasped.

Dude take it easy. I know it's not up to me nut the question was should we and I said for the right price of course. Like you said, it doesn't matter what you and I think we both know that whatever the FO does will probably be the opposite of what they should have done.
 
I posted this thought like two weeks ago (minus an article) and got slammed like 20 thumbs down etc.... Hmmm feeling slightly vindicated I'm not crazy and actually see the benefit if the deal is right. :dance:
 
Read my post again. No one here is an actual coach or GM so it really doesn't matter. Speaking for the majority, we are well aware of how BB runs his organization. Nothing wrong with a little fandom being displayed on a fan message board about one of the better players to don our uniform and dishing out a little respect in his favor. What's laughable is coming across like a hard ass and pretending you actually have a say in the situation or insight that no one else has ever grasped.

Funny thing is you're one of my favorite posters on this site but we can't always agree on everything.....lol
 
Wake will cost $9.7M on the cap next year. We would save $6.9M if traded or cut. Have to at least consider it. If you think we can contend, have to keep him. If not, should trade him to a contender. He deserves a playoff shot before he retires.

I like Wake. BUT I could care less what he deserves, we deserve the best draft pick we can get for him, so I don't care if it's a contender or a losing team, I want the most for him. But who cares what he deserves? This is the NFL

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Wake will cost $9.7M on the cap next year. We would save $6.9M if traded or cut. Have to at least consider it. If you think we can contend, have to keep him. If not, should trade him to a contender. He deserves a playoff shot before he retires.

I like Wake. BUT I could care less what he deserves, we deserve the best draft pick we can get for him, so I don't care if it's a contender or a losing team, I want the most for him. But who cares what he deserves? This is the NFL
 
Funny thing is you're one of my favorite posters on this site but we can't always agree on everything.....lol

Appreciate it. I'ts pretty obvious I got all butthurt over the 'wanting him to retire as a Dolphin is stupid' comment. I really like Wake along with the attitude he brings yet more often than not the business end of the NFL sucks. :brewskis:
 
The Phinsider: http://www.thephinsider.com/2014/12/9/7358701/should-the-miami-dolphins-trade-cameron-wake

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The Miami Dolphins have an elite player in Cameron Wake, but with the team on the verge of missing the playoffs again and possibly rebuilding, should they try to move their star pass rusher to get some draft picks?

This is a subject many Dolphins fans don't want to think about. Cameron Wake is the Miami Dolphins best player. He's the favorite current player of many fans. His story is a sports movie writer's dream. He played 4-3 outside linebacker at Penn State. He went undrafted in 2005, signed with the New York Giants as a free agent, but couldn't make the team. He went to work in a gym and as a mortgage broker trying to make ends meet while he kept his NFL dream alive. He got a workout for a Canadian football team, but showed up to the wrong place for the workout and nearly missed the opportunity. But he was signed by the BC Lions, where the coach put him at defensive end instead of linebacker. In his first two seasons, he accumulated 39 sacks, earning defensive honors in the CFL. He signed with the Dolphins in 2009 and well, you know the rest.
Cameron Wake is the type of player that offenses have to account for on every play. He has possibly the best first step of any defender in the NFL and can bend with the best of them to get to the quarterback. He's the type of player that most every team wishes they had on their roster. On top of that, Wake has a favorable contract for a player of his caliber. He's a face of the Dolphins franchise. So why would Miami even think about giving a player like that away? There are two reasons why they should think of trading Wake.

AGE
Miami is on the verge of missing the playoffs for a sixth straight season. If they don't, it will be time to rebuild/retool yet again. Unlike previous seasons though, Miami has some young talent to build around: Ryan Tannehill, Lamar Miller, Jarvis Landry, Charles Clay, Ja'Wuan James, Olivier Vernon, Jelani Jenkins, and Reshad Jones are all talented players a new coach could build around. That's a good base to work with. But the other side of retooling is that the Dolphins will need to get rid of parts they can't build around. That means getting rid of aging or declining players.
As good as Wake is, his age will be a factor that does not work in his favor. He will be 33 years old at the beginning of the 2015 season. Wake takes great care of his body and the lack of overall football 'mileage' could keep him fresher than most 33 year old defensive ends. But at some point, his age will catch up to him. Wake excels with athleticism and when that starts declining, will Wake be able to keep up his level of play? There is no doubt that the decline is coming, but when will that happen: the end of his contract in 2017? Next season?

TRADE VALUE
The inevitable decline is coming, but all we know is that it's not here yet. What that means is Wake's trade value is as high now as it's ever going to be. In the past, Miami has held on to a player a season or two too long and gotten nothing for them. If Miami holds on to him for too long and his play drops off, they will have to cut him, netting nothing. Or they can keep him and use him as a pass rushing specialist at a higher price. His contract is great for an elite pass rusher. If he can't remain an elite pass rusher, then Miami will be overpaying him and his trade value will be gone. Trading Wake this offseason means the Dolphins will be able to get the most they can out of the deal.

There is no guarantee that a team will want to trade for Wake, but a query must be made at the very least. There is always a team out there that is close to championship contention that would be willing to yield a draft pick for a player they think can get them over the hump. You can rule out attempting to trade Wake to lottery pick teams. It's a pipe dream to think the Dolphins will trade Wake to the Raiders or Buccaneers for a high draft pick. But teams like Atlanta, Seattle, or Arizona for example may want Wake for a Super Bowl push and would be willing to give up a decent pick to ensure they get there.

CONCLUSION
Wake is a popular player with fans, and most, including myself, would hate to see him go to another team. There are going to be some tough decisions coming up regarding this roster and what to do with Wake is one of them. It's unlikely that Wake will remain a top tier talent when Miami will be in a position to contend and his trade window is closing fast. This offseason will be the best opportunity for Miami to move Wake and get the best value for him, if they choose to move him. There are benefits to both sides of this equation and it will be a critical decision for the person that has to make it.

Thoughts? :ponder:

Kinda Stopped reading after this. If he was "elite" we wouldn't be discussing this.
 
Wake was never a great run stopper that's what kept him off the field on 1st and 2nd downs when he first got here, but now he gets a lot of attention which gives Vernon a chance to make plays, I say keep Wake, draft his replacement....he can help develop the kid plus be used like he was when he first got here.....if we trade him and don't replace him everyone will be screaming about the lack of pass rush.....Wake may not get as many sacks as we may want but he does get pressure and he can get pressure with only rushing 4 guys, this helps the secondary out and is one of the reasons we play the Pats tough....you have to get to Brady with 4 guys so you can put guys in passing lanes and tight coverage to slow that offense down.....

I'm sure we could resign him to keep from taking the full hit of that cap hit and spread it out over 3 yrs......
 
Trying to find a similar situation and the best I can find is when the Patriots traded Richard Seymour to the Raiders for a 1st round pick in 2009. Seymour was 30 at the time. Hard to gauge from this cuz the raider always got hoodwinked on trades. Anyone got access to trades database that would have players over 33 and what the got?
 
short and sweet not interested for anything less than a 1st and were not getting that, so.....
 
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