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Sign Leonard Fournette

Might actually be worth it...he runs angry. One year deal....I'll bite.
 
The Goat said:
Jordan Howard had more starts, more rushes, more yards, more TDs and a better YPC than Fournette for the first three years of their respective careers...and it wasn't close. Howard had over 3,300 yards (1,100 AVERAGE per season.) Fournette has 2,631.
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Let's be fair and mention Fournette was injured most of his 2nd season. He put up 2600 yards in 36 games while Howard had 3300 in 47 games during each of their first three seasons. Howard had nearly 800 carries to Fournette's 666 so of course you would expect Howard to produce more yards.
 
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gregorygrant83 said:
Let's be fair and mention Fournette was injured most of his 2nd season. He put up 2600 yards in 36 games while Howard had 3300 in 47 games during each of their first three seasons. Howard had nearly 800 carries to Fournette's 666 so of course you would expect Howard to produce more yards.
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...and he also had more yards per carry.

My point is that some are suggesting that Howard isn't a proven back, or that Fournette is a far superior back to Howard...and neither of those things are true.
 
Howard’s production in Chicago had a lot to do with no weapons at wr for the bears one of those cutler years due to attrition. So the offense ran thru the rbs and the tight ends.

so there’s some similarities in terms of volume based production.

Went to the eagles and lost his gig to the 2nd round rb from penn state miles sanders who was more talented.
 
The Goat said:
...and he also had more yards per carry.

My point is that some are suggesting that Howard isn't a proven back, or that Fournette is a far superior back to Howard...and neither of those things are true.
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It's sort of like having one car that you like in your garage and then get offered a good deal on a car you like a little more than the one you already have. I guess sometimes you just have to ride with what you already have.
 
hoops said:
Howard’s production in Chicago had a lot to do with no weapons at wr for the bears one of those cutler years due to attrition. So the offense ran thru the rbs and the tight ends.

so there’s some similarities in terms of volume based production.

Went to the eagles and lost his gig to the 2nd round rb from penn state miles sanders who was more talented.
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I think he can still be a solid rb. Not ‘the’ guy, but a solid one to rotate in
 
I think he would be a good pick-up. A power back who can catch the ball out of the backfield. I would get him, hopefully he and Breida do well enough that we can keep one and let the other go for a comp pick. Hopefully, that one we let go is Fournette, since we didn't give up anything to get him.
 
hoops said:
Howard’s production in Chicago had a lot to do with no weapons at wr for the bears one of those cutler years due to attrition. So the offense ran thru the rbs and the tight ends.

so there’s some similarities in terms of volume based production.

Went to the eagles and lost his gig to the 2nd round rb from penn state miles sanders who was more talented.
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This just isn't accurate. Howard did not lose his gig because Sanders was more talented.

Howard and Sanders started the season sharing carries...they split the workload pretty evenly for the first few weeks. By midseason, Howard was getting the majority of the carries. HE was the workhorse back, not Sanders. The reason Miles Sanders became the starter was because of the shoulder injury Howard suffered against Chicago in Week 8. He barely played again for the rest of the year after that - he just wasn't medically right.

Don't get me wrong, Sanders is a talented back. But so is Howard. They complemented each other well - I'm betting Howard and Breida will as well.
 
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I'm not sure how many people have watched his NFL career but he is not a bruiser after college. He avoids tackles like Ginn Jr. used to. Dude is also a problem on and off the field.
 
gregorygrant83 said:
Let's be fair and mention Fournette was injured most of his 2nd season. He put up 2600 yards in 36 games while Howard had 3300 in 47 games during each of their first three seasons. Howard had nearly 800 carries to Fournette's 666 so of course you would expect Howard to produce more yards.
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Since when did it not matter if an RB could stay on the field? That's a pretty important skill unto itself.
 
hoops said:
Howard’s production in Chicago had a lot to do with no weapons at wr for the bears one of those cutler years due to attrition. So the offense ran thru the rbs and the tight ends.

so there’s some similarities in terms of volume based production.

Went to the eagles and lost his gig to the 2nd round rb from penn state miles sanders who was more talented.
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Howard was pretty darn dynamic that rookie year in Chicago. I'm not sure I understand your claim at all. You state that the Bears had no receivers and thus the game had to run through the RB - wouldn't that have meant it was MORE difficult for the RB to produce on a per carry basis, since the defense didn't have to worry about the passing game? He averaged 5.2 YPC over 252 carries and as someone who watches nearly all Bears' games, his ability was legit.

Now I don't think he was the same player after Nagy took over - he looked a lot slower whereas he used to hit the hole like Lamar Miller but with more power. I don't think we're getting the same Howard as when he entered the league or else Id be really excited, as it is I like Breida more. But still, you're claim is preposterous and defies logic, and I'm pretty sure I've seen ten times the Howard play that you have.
 
Sirspud said:
Since when did it not matter if an RB could stay on the field? That's a pretty important skill unto itself.
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It matters if you can stay on the field. First of all we were talking about comparing raw numbers. You can't just look at season total numbers and disregard games played and attempts. Secondly in my book you can't say a player can't stay on the field because he has a serious injury that forces him to miss 2/3rds of one of his three seasons.
 
1Dolfan said:
you also likely get a 3rd round compensatory pick if he leaves next year this is a no brainer
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That's not how the comp system works. You get a 3d round pick if 1) Your free agent signs a top tier contract with another team 2) You don't sign a comparable free agent from another team.

Chances are the Dolphins would receive nothing because Fournette would not command a big money contract and the Fins will almost certainly sign a more expensive free agent.
 
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