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Some Ronnie Brown Common Sense

footballphin said:
Anyone who doesn't like Brown could profit by giving some thought to what our offense would be like at this point without him.

It's a scary thought.
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:yeahthat:
 
Ditto

DePhinistr8 said:
I just wanted to be included in the only good thread I've seen here in a while. :D
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Same here, this place has been sick of late. So glad to see a good thread! 5 stars from me! Way to go Boomer!
 
I agree for the most part, he is not a bust and will put up good numbers.

But, What was the deal with that play where he finally broke a long run down the side and he looked like he was jogging and then steps out of bounds? If that was tiki or someone with speed, it would of been 6 points..
 
Ronnie is closer to a Bernie Parmalee or a Karim Abdul Jabbar than anywhere close to a LT or LJ or Tiki, or any of the top 20 RB's in the league.
 
footballphin said:
Anyone who doesn't like Brown could profit by giving some thought to what our offense would be like at this point without him.

It's a scary thought.
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What? Would we be 0-6? Oh, wow, what a big difference. Ronnie is not anything more than a serviceable player at this point. Will he become more? I sure hope so, but no one will ever convince me that the game he had against the 3rd worst rushing D in the game is enough to make him a top 20 back in the league.
 
Dmancari23 said:
Ronnie is closer to a Bernie Parmalee or a Karim Abdul Jabbar than anywhere close to a LT or LJ or Tiki, or any of the top 20 RB's in the league.
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Well you're just not a very good judge of horseflesh then.
 
amir7 said:
Great post Boomer, maybe now we can quiet all the ronnie bashing.
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This is hardely going to stop the ronnie bashing, if anything it leads to it more by pointing out the fact that he is NOT as great as everyone thinks/claims.

I've been saying forever hes just a good running back and not great, however like on so many other things no one ever listened.
 
Boomer said:
There is a lot of uninformed nonsense being spoken about Brown at the moment, about his talent and whether he's a great back.

The word 'great' is the most overused phrase in the world of sports. It defines a generation of athletes, yet it’s used with wanton disregard for history or analysis.

Look back the sporting moments that have defined your lives, the players that have defined your memories. Jerry Rice was great. So was Barry Sanders. So was Dan Marino. And Lawrence Taylor. Deion Sanders was great.

These are the standard bearers for greatness. Decade defining performers. Truly deserving of the word 'great'.

Take a look round at the league. Take running back for example. Look at the two best backs in the league – in my opinion –Tomlinson and Larry Johnson. Tomlinson is headed to the Hall of Fame. Johnson strikes me as the back most likely to run for 2000+ yards. In fact I see a lot of similarities between Ronnie and Larry. Johnson, like Brown, has been hampered by poor line play this season.

But are they ‘great’? Tomlinson probably is. Johnson? I don’t think so. He has the potential for greatness, but is he stand-alone great? No. Look at the last back to run for 2000 yards, Jamal Lewis. Is he great?

No.

So what we’re saying is that in a league of 32 teams, with each team having a minimum of 3 backs, that out of a minimum of 96 players, there is 1 ‘great’ one?

Look elsewhere. Chuck in Tom Brady, Peyton and Walter Jones, Champ Bailey, maybe Shawne Merriman. That’s great right there. I’m happy with that. But great should be defined by whether we look back and fondly remember their 'greatness' in 2 decades time. I look back now and remember some of the great plays by Taylor, the great runs of Sanders. I can still remember being in my bedroom and listening to Jerry Rice go 96 yards against the Chargers on Armed Forces Radio as though it were yesterday. I remember Marino to Ferrell Edmonds backed up on our goaline against the Chiefs in the playoffs and the Al Michaels 'mano y mano' commentary on the Mark Clayton winning catch against Albert Lewis in the right flat, all as though they were this morning. And yet other than the names on here, I’m not sure we could list a lot of others playing now as truly 'great'.

Harsh, but ultimately fair when you contextualise greatness.

So onto Brown. He’s certainly better than mediocre. Is he very good? No. He’s good. But why ONLY good? Well, he’s only played 20 games in his pro career. Look at the body of work – 292 carries, 1185 yards, at 4.1 a pop and 7 scores. That’s not bad. In fact that’s pretty good. Look back at him last year. What I saw was a big back, who flashed good speed, flashed good vision, flashed remarkable power – remember the Cleveland run - good hands, excellent blocking ability. But 'flashed' is the key word. I saw lots of 'great plays', just not enough to consider him anything other than good.

Yet.

Can he be very good ? Yes, absolutely and I completely believe he will be. Will he be 'great'? I’m not sure. But in a league of 1 great back in 96, being very good isn’t such a bad thing.
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If Ronnie Brown was our biggest problem Id be pretty happy...IMO he is one of the reasons I believe the Fins will be worth watching this and every other Sunday........
 
also why arent we including his receiveing stats with his running from last year.. people point out 927 yards last year but he also had about 400 yards.. thats more than cadillac had total yards last year.
 
IMO the things that will make RB a truly feared player are better OL blocking and better use of him in the passing game.
 
DolphinsFan23 said:
How's this for some common sense ...

If you guys think Ronnie isn't doing so well this year, take a look at LaDainian Tomlinson, Larry Johnson, and Reggie Bush's stats. Tomlinson and Johnson have a lot more experience than Ronnie does and probably much better offensive lines.

I know the Saints have a fairly good line this year, so what's the deal with Reggie Bush? He's getting $6 million more guaranteed than Ronnie. According some people's standards on this board, Reggie probably should just be traded or something ... his perfomance indicates that he just isn't worth the money spent on him as a #2 draft pick and he's a BUST, etc.

Guess what folks, so far this season, Ronnie Brown has more yards than Larry Johnson, more yards per carry, and more TDs. Ronnie also has more yards per carry than LaDainian Tomlinson.

Ronnie has 153 yards receiving vs. LaDainian's 174 yards and Ronnie didn't get ONE pass thrown to him during the Jets game for some reason.


For the 2006 season ...

Ronnie Brown: 405 yards, 3.8 ypc, 27 longest run, 4 TDs

Larry Johnson: 357 yards, 3.4 ypc, 28 longest run, 3 TDs

LaDainian Tomlinson: 407 yards, 3.7 ypc, 58 longest run, 7 TDs

Reggie Bush: 195 yards, 3.0 ypc, 18 longest run, 0 TDs


http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=7178

http://sports-att.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5452

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=4485

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=7751
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Another good post in a great thread...:D
 
Dmancari23 said:
Ronnie is closer to a Bernie Parmalee or a Karim Abdul Jabbar than anywhere close to a LT or LJ or Tiki, or any of the top 20 RB's in the league.
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Good job.

You took a factual, well reasoned thread and added absolutley nothing of substance.
 
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