Something about the D I have noticed
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cltchperf
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yep and only 17 vs pats. And really one of those tds should not have even counted as it was an illegal formation never called that even announcers saw was wrong. Don't forget with the big lead miami had, dolphins were in prevent defense probably too second half, so yards will add up and usually even good defenses relax and give up points because of big lead. Despite that the defense only allowed 13 pts as one td came from a kick off return from broncos
JamesWsenior
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Well they really should have had one that was called back by a very questionable pick play penalty on the moving/not that stationary db of ours.
One major difference I have noticed with our D, and I'm going to give Fangio credit for emphasizing/teaching this (because basically nothing else has changed) , is how successful we have become at punching balls out of the hands of our opponents.
Chubb caused a huge TO v. NE when he did it chasing down that WR earlier in the game, and Holland KO'd Sutton twice. The way our players are constantly tracking the ball in our opponents hands and accurately punching the ball (and the fact we recovered all of the loose balls) def shows the emphasis coaches are putting on going for aggressive yet high yield turn overs.
Those forced fumbles were deliberately executed and the form used is so much better than watching a defender being piggy backed 15 yards by a ball carrier while he flails and slaps around aimlessly before failing and falling off the defender .
Chubb caused a huge TO v. NE when he did it chasing down that WR earlier in the game, and Holland KO'd Sutton twice. The way our players are constantly tracking the ball in our opponents hands and accurately punching the ball (and the fact we recovered all of the loose balls) def shows the emphasis coaches are putting on going for aggressive yet high yield turn overs.
Those forced fumbles were deliberately executed and the form used is so much better than watching a defender being piggy backed 15 yards by a ball carrier while he flails and slaps around aimlessly before failing and falling off the defender .
Huge disappointment?
You realize they stopped 2 possible final game winning drives v. LAC and NE? And pushed Denver out of FG range after we lost the ball on downs on our own 35ish. They basically were given the ball in FG range and our D forced them to lose yardage and punt it. It was 21-10 at that point, could've easily been 21-17 after that drive.
Don't worry, be happy.
You think holding a team to 3-12 on third down conversions and 3 turnovers is a huge disappointment in the third game of a defensive overhaul from a scheme standpoint? I think this falls under the category of, you just can't please some people. We are all aware that the defense is getting better and will continue to get better as the season goes on. If you look at the stats from week to week that is clear. I am happy with the progress and I am looking forward to seeing how good this defense can get. Because I think it can be very good this season. I just wish we would have Ramsey back for the Eagles game.
Springveldt
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Didn’t realise we were talking about the Bills run D and their 5.9ypc. Mostert and Achane about to go for 250 this week.
Springveldt
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The defence wasn’t good first game but if it plays the way it has the last 2 games Miami wins a lot of games. It has only given up 17 and 13 points the last 2 weeks. Denver dropped 33 on the Commanders without any turnovers (look at how many turnovers the Bills forced to get their 37) yet the Dolphins held them to 13. The Broncos offence isn’t a bad offence.
Also, the last 2 weeks the defence has really clamped down on the run game which people seem to be missing and they are getting turnovers. It’s getting better ever week.
They’re allowed 30 points in the past two weeks. This is after playing one of the best offenses in the NFL in their house Week 1.
If you dislike yards being given up, you either don’t know what Fangio does, or are very, very easily disappointed.
WaddleWaddle
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The Eagles had the best defense in the NFL last year and the chiefs beat them in a shootout to win the superbowl. We can't expect to shut down the best of the best but thankfully our offense can outscore anyone.
Leave this poor gentleman alone, folks. He’s using words with more than two syllables, so he’s clearly tired of dealing with other Bills fans.
For that matter, he’s probably tired of dealing with Buffalo.
If you noticed, our sacks come during crunch time this season, when it really matters
One thing I noticed, I don't know if its already been pointed out, is Fangio finally moved on from Apple, and had Kader as the 2nd CB (Bethel played nickel in Kader's place) and it was immediate improvement over the previous few weeks. The Broncos got a few big plays off in the passing game, and they were generally after Wilson created...Allen does the same. The Bills are gonna get theirs, but Allen takes a lot of risks...we gotta make him pay on some of those.
keller377
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I skipped most of the thread.
We lead the AFCE in points allowed due to:
1 We haven't played the Jests
2 We are not the Jests, so other teams know they need to score to win.
We lead the AFCE in points allowed due to:
1 We haven't played the Jests
2 We are not the Jests, so other teams know they need to score to win.
I am always going to point out the worst players on the team, if that means I have an agenda, so be it. Typically my agenda with former Buckeyes is to prop them up given my love for The Ohio State University.
The previous coaches didn't have a choice when it came to playing Baker. He had too much guaranteed money, which won't be the case after the season, when he's one of the first players released.
The only thing he had going for him is that we had no other LB's and little means of replacing him. When you're a zero impact player making 8 figures, everyone should have the same agenda.
He's a weakness no matter how you spin it.
Also remember Flores and Boyer got FIRED.
Hard to comprehend the defense of Baker here. Especially after he chose to do nothing on the Mike Gesicki lateral play, other than watch it unfold, while most of the other defenders swarmed to the ball. Its who he is, no heart, just athletic ability.
The irony here is that I only mentioned him this week because he actually made a single (big) play.
I think we can make a move to upgrade that position before the trade deadline.
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