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Sources: Ireland suggested that Martin confront Incognito physically

SkapePhin said:
If true, doesn't this also contradict what Martin said? He said he didn't tell anyone in the organization about bullying before leaving or even afterward
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Maybe Martin didn't. This was Martin's agent who supposedly made the call to Ireland

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finomenal said:
You're naive to think I'm being naive. It's guys who play a game and their emotions. A real life soap opera. I don't care. My only dog in this fight is seeing this regime gone. The more negative news and rumors that come out, the better. It's all about the greater good for me.
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Careful....I was basically told I wasn't a real fan for saying the same thing...
 
SkapePhin said:
If true, doesn't this also contradict what Martin said? He said he didn't tell anyone in the organization about bullying before leaving or even afterward
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What exactly did Martin say and it still doesnt contradict since it was his agent that spoke to Ireland
 
ConvenientTruth said:
Careful....I was basically told I wasn't a real fan for saying the same thing...
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Of course...because fake Dolphins fans take the time to post on a Dolphins forum everyday :lol:

Those are probably the same people who wanted more meaningless wins in the 2011 season and didn't agree with tanking for Luck.
 
This whole thing smells though. We know Ireland is capable of making a comment like that, but is he so entirely stupid as to then let the Dolphins release a statement that no one was aware of these allegations, etc.?

Dude would have to be a straight up idiot to think this would stay covered up.

I do think something is up with management thiugh. Philbin was very evasive, especially when asked if he thought Martin needed toughening up. It looked to me that Philbin did know about asking players to toughen up Martin (which until this incident, wasn't unusual. In fact Hard knocks documented such a cash with Egnew, and no one cared)
 
SkapePhin said:
This whole thing smells though. We know Ireland is capable of making a comment like that, but is he so entirely stupid as to then let the Dolphins release a statement that no one was aware of these allegations, etc.?

Dude would have to be a straight up idiot to think this would stay covered up.

I do think something is up with management thiugh. Philbin was very evasive, especially when asked if he thought Martin needed toughening up. It looked to me that Philbin did know about asking players to toughen up Martin (which until this incident, wasn't unusual. In fact Hard knocks documented such a cash with Egnew, and no one cared)
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Well nobody has ever slandered ole man boobs Ireland by calling him smart.
 
dlockz said:
What exactly did Martin say and it still doesnt contradict since it was his agent that spoke to Ireland
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If people are communicating your stance, isn't that an extension of you?

Snowden didn't write the story with the leaks, he let a journalist do that, but Snowden is still the one in trouble.
 
I agree with Ireland, if it bothered him so much why did Martin wait until after he was switched from LT to RT, Martin was pissed because of this move, sure Incognito was wrong but Martin's situation isn't about since he was a rookie, this stuff goes back to when he was a youngster at home with mom, like he is now with mom, and she's is supposed to make everything better for him. He needs to get his tail back to work and stand up and be a man for once in his life because all of this stuff is going to take care of itself.
 
If it ain't on tape and it's not in writing ... it never happened. Very simple.
 
andyahs said:
Constantly pulling for people to be fired instead of team success shows you are not a fan.

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Their track record beyond this incident shows they should be...Ireland's drafting alone should be enough evidence.
 
andyahs said:
Constantly pulling for people to be fired instead of team success shows you are not a fan.

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Not necessarily . I wanted us to fire Jay Fielder as our qb for years because I knew he wasnt capable of leading us anywhere so maybe they just feel the same about Ireland.
Im pretty sure there is a dolphin player u wish wasnt on the team or a coach doesnt make u less of a fan.
 
All of Shefter and Florio`s sources are on Martin`s side of the story... Wonder why that is...
 
bcsupratt said:
Criminal? So you're apart of Roger Goodell's investigation to deem him a criminal? We can all speculate but we do NOT know the context of the phone call...

It could have been where Jeffy was like " WHy didn't he stand up for himself?" "Why didnt he just punch him in the face?"

I seriously doubt Jeff Ireland demanded Martin to fight it out....he was probably just as shocked as anyone else
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Why would you seriously doubt that? This is the same guy who called a fan an a-hole, and who asked a draft prospect if his mother was a whore. Who knows what else this guy has said or done. Ireland is obviously tone deaf and incompetent his name being involved in any of this shouldn't shock anyone

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