Spragan

[enigmatics]

Brian Urlacher, rookie year.

You simply cannot compare Crowder to Urlacher......

 

[DolphinDevil28]

You simply cannot compare Crowder to Urlacher......

Ok, why not?

Both are extremely athletic and good tacklers. Both were projected as MIKE's, but due to present rosters, played at SAM's because of their talent.

How are they different?

 

[enigmatics]

Ok, why not?

Both are extremely athletic and good tacklers. Both were projected as MIKE's, but due to present rosters, played at SAM's because of their talent.

How are they different?

I'm missing the boat on this Mike/Sam thing you speak of......you'll have to explain it.......

Regardless, many players fit that profile........that's pretty standard to say someone's athletic and a good tackler.........again look at where they were drafted and depending on the position drafted players play in, it can determine how much they're expected to contribute. In this case Urlacher was drafted 9th overall. Not to mention Urlacher didn't have the rap-sheet Crowder has, nor the health concerns.

 

[finsnchips]

Greenwood was a very solid linebacker... he played well alongside Junior and Zach, he was solid but unspectacular.

We've got enough talent at LB. Spragan is a solid signing, again, solid but unspectacular. Crowder is going to contribute a lot, sooner rather than later. I think he's got Ray Lewis like potential, the only knock on him was his knees. I like Eddie Moore. He impressed me in his limited playing time so far and hopefully he can stay injury free. Saban should know a bit about him from the SEC.

On a side note, I dont rate Derrick Pope. I think he did a nice job, for a seventh round pick, last year when covering for Zach, but not much more. I don't think he'll contribute too much next year. He is wildly overrated by many on these boards.

 

[finsnchips]

I'm missing the boat on this Mike/Sam thing you speak of......you'll have to explain it.......

Regardless, many players fit that profile........that's pretty standard to say someone's athletic and a good tackler.........again look at where they were drafted and depending on the position drafted players play in, it can determine how much they're expected to contribute. In this case Urlacher was drafted 9th overall. Not to mention Urlacher didn't have the rap-sheet Crowder has, nor the health concerns.

Mike - Middle LB

Sam - Strong Side LB

Will - Weak Side LB

 

[DolphinDevil28]

I'm missing the boat on this Mike/Sam thing you speak of......you'll have to explain it.......

Regardless, many players fit that profile........that's pretty standard to say someone's athletic and a good tackler.........again look at where they were drafted and depending on the position drafted players play in, it can determine how much they're expected to contribute. In this case Urlacher was drafted 9th overall. Not to mention Urlacher didn't have the rap-sheet Crowder has, nor the health concerns.

OK, it has nothing to do with where they were drafted.

SAM= Strong side LB.

MIKE= Middle LB.

WILLIE= Weakside LB.

There you go. Nick himself said that Channing can play all 3 positions. He will play wherever Nick sees fit, and my guess is that during TC he will prove he is one of the best and he will start at SAM.

 

[jlfin]

Moore is better thsn Greenwood. More athletic and more instinctive (no pun intended).


"You ask, What is our policy? I will say; It is to wage war, by sea, land and air, with all our might and with all the strength that God can give us. . . . That is our policy. You ask, What is our aim? I can answer with one word: Victory--victory at all costs, victory in spite of all terror, victory, however long and hard the road may be; for without victory there is no survival."
--Winston Churchill, first speech as prime minister to the House of Commons
May 13, 1940

 

[DreamWeaver]

I saw Donny Spragan play a few games for the Broncos at Invesco Field....I am not sure if I would say he is as good as Greenwood but I always thought he played hard....I think it is a good pickup for the Phins.

It would be hard to be worse that Greenwood....I would define MG's career to this point as "unspectacular". His biggest impact on the organization was that weak attempt at a music career.:D

 

[finsnchips]

It would be hard to be worse that Greenwood....I would define MG's career to this point as "unspectacular". His biggest impact on the organization was that weak attempt at a music career.:D

his music is ****

 

[arsenal]

moore, if healthy will be on the field more than spragen... if moore stays healthy i see him starting if (or should i say when) seau gets hurt and we are lining up 4-3...

 

[LarryFinFan]

Is he really better than Greenwood? I hope he is because I am not sure Moore is so great, Pope and Jenkins have shown more potential than Moore, possibly because of Moores injury prone NFL career. I know that they all play different backup positions, but they were all drafted for their versitility and ability to find the ball. Spragan is big and fast but is he consistant? The Broncos dumped him for some reasons besides money? Crowder could be the Dolphins X factor if injurys occure at LB(Seau?), and he stays healthy with those bionic knees of his. Go Fins................:evil: PS, Seau is great and is a true football pro player with alot of class.:evil:

Spraghan is a little better than Greenwood. Greenwood was serviceable, but not spectacular. Spraghan is serviceable but will make a few more plays on the outside than Greenwood did. Moore is small and fast, like Wanny wanted his LBers and does not fit into the style of LB that Saban likes. He'll struggle playing OLB in Saban's style of D. I look to see him still in a backup role when all is said and done. He would have done better as a MLB or OLB in the JJ/Wanny defense. BTW, I wouldn't call him injury prone. He had a serious injury his first season, but was reasonably healthy last year. Jenkins is, at best, a good STer.

Crowder is the X factor for our LBers this year. If he develops into the beast that he was in college quickly, he'll be the OLB spelling (and eventually taking more and more time away from Jr) Seau. If he takes longer to develop...it could be a longer year for us. Seau was a great LB and is suited to playing the role Saban wants him to, but could be somewhat fragile and has lost a step. The good thing is that in Saban's D, he doesn't have to be "fast", and can use his experience to overcome the lost step.

My question is how will Zach fare this year. He is a great MLB in the JJ/Wanny D, but not suited to the Bruschi role with Saban. He'll get lost in the flow. Saban wants his LBers to move up and take on bigger linemen, TEs and FBs. Kevin Maewae (sp) has proven that Zach can be had in that role. Saban is, however, great at adjusting his style of D to his players and adjusting his D to the particular mode in which it is being attacked by opposing teams. Hopefully will devise a scheme that takes advantage of Zach's ability while still getting the additional pressure on the OL, backs, and QB that Saban desires.

 

[redhead]

can he play TE...?

 

[finsnchips]

Spraghan is a little better than Greenwood. Greenwood was serviceable, but not spectacular. Spraghan is serviceable but will make a few more plays on the outside than Greenwood did. Moore is small and fast, like Wanny wanted his LBers and does not fit into the style of LB that Saban likes. He'll struggle playing OLB in Saban's style of D. I look to see him still in a backup role when all is said and done. He would have done better as a MLB or OLB in the JJ/Wanny defense. BTW, I wouldn't call him injury prone. He had a serious injury his first season, but was reasonably healthy last year. Jenkins is, at best, a good STer.

Crowder is the X factor for our LBers this year. If he develops into the beast that he was in college quickly, he'll be the OLB spelling (and eventually taking more and more time away from Jr) Seau. If he takes longer to develop...it could be a longer year for us. Seau was a great LB and is suited to playing the role Saban wants him to, but could be somewhat fragile and has lost a step. The good thing is that in Saban's D, he doesn't have to be "fast", and can use his experience to overcome the lost step.

My question is how will Zach fare this year. He is a great MLB in the JJ/Wanny D, but not suited to the Bruschi role with Saban. He'll get lost in the flow. Saban wants his LBers to move up and take on bigger linemen, TEs and FBs. Kevin Maewae (sp) has proven that Zach can be had in that role. Saban is, however, great at adjusting his style of D to his players and adjusting his D to the particular mode in which it is being attacked by opposing teams. Hopefully will devise a scheme that takes advantage of Zach's ability while still getting the additional pressure on the OL, backs, and QB that Saban desires.

I think Junior will excel this year... and I also think that this will not be his last year.

 

[BLITZKRIEG]

He sucked? Excuse me, but I missed that part of his career with the Dolphins. The man was solid all the way around.

Greenwood was about as mediocre as you can get. Solid???....Solid at being mediocre...

Came to work everyday, blue collar all the way. In fact when Zach went out with an assortment of injuries the past two seasons, Morlon stepped in admirably and that's exactly how he earned his payday with the Texans.

When did Greenwood ever play MLB???....Last year it was Pope who filled in for Zach. I don't recall Greenwood ever playing MLB, and if he did, he must not have done very much beacuse I can't remember....

The Texans were robbed by Greenwood and his agent. His contract is ridiculously overpriced....

Give the man credit where credit's due...........sucked? Maybe your evaluation of the man does, but Morlon Greenwood certainly doesn't suck.

He sucks, and after you see his replacement racking up tackles, and sacks, you'll understand why we're happy he's gone....

PHINZ RULE!!!!

 

[enigmatics]

Greenwood was about as mediocre as you can get. Solid???....Solid at being mediocre...

When did Greenwood ever play MLB???....Last year it was Pope who filled in for Zach. I don't recall Greenwood ever playing MLB, and if he did, he must not have done very much beacuse I can't remember....

The Texans were robbed by Greenwood and his agent. His contract is ridiculously overpriced....

He sucks, and after you see his replacement racking up tackles, and sacks, you'll understand why we're happy he's gone....

PHINZ RULE!!!!

No.

Is seasons prior, Greenwood and even Tommy Hendricks filled in for Zach when he was hurt. I really don't care much for "what you remember." Greenwood in his early couple seasons was questionable, yet in the past two seasons he upped his game and racked up over 170 tackles. He's simply just not a playmaker, however his game is solid. He doesn't get beat badly, all last year he was in on every play. Again, not a playmaker, but solid.

This isn't the NBA where a bum like Dan Gadzuric can re-up with his team for 6 years, $36 mil .........in the NFL you actually have to earn your dollar. The Texans overpaid? Yes. Does that mean Greenwood sucks? No. He just sucks in your eyes because he wasn't out there making game changing plays. Which wasn't expected of him while he was here. He was expected to control his side of the field.......... Zach and Seau were responsible for creating the plays.

Stop hating on the guy. It makes you look spiteful.