Dolfan984
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I'll take the career Dolphin Olindo Mare. :)
Love the touchbacks.
Love the touchbacks.
Phinfan said:The thing that bothers me about Mare is he misses the easy kicks. Looking at this figures it seems like the majority of his misses are under 40 yards. He has lost a few games for the phins because of missed FGs.
Mile High Fin said:I'm tired of reading "opinions" of which kicker is our best option.
Here's the cold-hard facts on FG kicking:
Mare
Career (9 years):
Total: 219/267 (82%)
40-49: 53/73 (73%)
50+: 13/24 (54%)
Last 3 years:
Total: 59/75 (79%)
40-49: 15/18 (83%)
50+: 7/11 (64%)
Vinatieri
Career (10 years):
Total: 263/321 (82%)
40-49: 70/99 (71%)
50+: 8/17 (47%)
Last 3 years:
Total: 76/92 (82%)
40-49: 20/26 (77%)
50+: 0/4 (0%)
Vanderjagt
Career (8 years):
Total: 217/248 (87.5%)
40-49: 65/81 (80%)
50+: 14/21 (67%)
Last 3 years:
Total: 80/87 (92%)
40-49: 24/27 (89%)
50+: 1/2 (50%)
Edinger
Career (6 years):
Total: 135/180 (75%)
40-49: 48/67 (72%)
50+: 16/24 (67%)
Last 3 years:
Total: 66/94 (70%)
40-49: 21/31 (68%)
50+: 9/14 (64%)
Conclusions:
1. Edinger is definitely a step DOWN from the other 3 in accuracy.
2. Mare has the strongest leg.
3. Mare attempted 11 50+ FGs (making 7) in the last 3 years compared with Vinatieri (0/4), and Vanderjagt (1/2).
4. If we had Vinatieri/Vanderjagt, we wouldn't "go" for 50+ FGs very often because they lack the strength/accuracy from 50+.
5. It's definitely a MYTH that Vinatieri is a "money" kicker, especailly over the past 3 years (77% from 40-49, vs. 83% Mare, 89% Vanderjagt). He's just been fortunate to have made a couple of big kicks in front of a national audience (I bet Mare would've made the same kicks if given the chance). He hasn't made a 50+ in over 3 years, and only attempted 4 of them. I can see now why NE is letting him go for the price.
6. Vanderjagt definitely is accurate, but weak-legged. He hardly attempt anything 50+. Maybe his accuracy is "boosted" by NOT attempting as many long, hard FGs. Mare is nearly as accurate (83% vs. 89%) from 40-49 yards over the past 3 years. Plus, Mare's leg is stronger (thus, we can "go" for 50+ FGs instead of punting, and Mare can handle Kick-offs).
And wouldn't Vinatieri & Vanderjagt be MORE expensive than Mare???
Thus, my pick is definitely: MARE
LarryFinFan said:Watch other kickers...same things happen...if we were NE, we'd be complaining about Vinitieri...Mare is pretty close to the guys mentioned here, and better in some areas...He makes less than both do...why move him ??
hdjetta6316 said:Your results are skewed. Vander whatever kicked a minimum of 8 games a year in a dome. With-out wind or adverse conditions it will unfairly boost his average. I suggest you get the split stats and compare all three kickers stats either only outside or only inside.