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Just trying to get some opinons how prevalent do you think steroids are in the current NFL?
I will chime in and say it's pretty widespread, I would venture that there are some players on every team who does them.

With the big money commanded it would not be hard to beleive someone would take these to "get an edge" on a sport that not only grades your physical talents but your size,speed and even your appearance.

I got to thinking about this while watching a re-run of an Auburn/Alabama game in the very early 80's and they were introducing the starting offenses and defenses. It seemed funny when the announcers mentioned "THE BIG GUY" on the line playing DT who was about 230lbs. Now some 20 years later 230 lbs. is a medium LB or TE in the game. I think Roids have beena round awhile but probably started becoming more popular in football around the 80's and on.

To prove my point I will post links to pics of athletes probably most guilty of roids, Pro Bodybuilders, and how they changed as time went on.

On a final note(this is from PURE memory and could be off) I read an estimate stating that it is possible that nearly 50% of Olympic athletes are or were on The Juice prior to competing. I also read where there was a blind survey done among Olympic athletes and nearly 80% said they WOULD do the Juice to win a medal even if it meant taking 10 years off their lives.

I would like to hear your thoughts on this also.

http://www.briansdriveintheater.com/bodybuilder/sreeves3.jpg

http://www.classicbodybuilders.com/bodybuilder/spikeadams1.jpg

Steve Reeves and Spike AdAMS in the 1950's

http://www.classicbodybuilders.com/bodybuilder/charlesamato1.jpg
http://www.classicbodybuilders.com/bodybuilder/jimpayne1.jpg

EARLY 60'S


http://www.classicbodybuilders.com/bodybuilder/sergiooliva/sergiooliva6.jpg
http://www.classicbodybuilders.com/bodybuilder/imlachshearer1.jpg

http://www.briansdriveintheater.com/hercules/sergenubret10.jpg

LATE 60'S EARLY 70'S


http://www.classicbodybuilders.com/bodybuilder/dalehatcher1.jpg

http://www.classicbodybuilders.com/bodybuilder/frankzane/frankzane9.jpg

80'S


http://www.bodybuilders.com/yates.jpg

http://www.leehaney.com/a2.jpg

http://www.ronniecoleman.com/schneider/schneider-2001-olympia-04.htm


FINALLY THE 90'S AND TODAY
 
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I hope you got the idea for this thread before finding these pictures, and not while looking at these pictures.
 
Interesting article I found :

"It was in the mid-'80s that Black, working in the departments of pathology and pharmacology at Vanderbilt University at the time, was contacted by then-NFL Commissioner Pete Rozelle.

Rozelle's message: It's time to tackle steroid use in the league.

Black, now president of Aegis Sciences Corp. in Nashville, said players ''were caught completely by surprise'' when they showed up for training camp in 1987 and were tested for steroids, although the testing was done only to determine the extent of use and without the threat of penalty.

In the wake of the tests, Black had reason to believe anywhere from 6.5% to 15% of NFL players had steroids in their system. The league, with the support of the NFL Players Association, began punishing players in 1989, and 17 players were suspended by 1990."

http://www.tennessean.com/sports/titans/archives/02/06/18598330.shtml?Element_ID=18598330


Remember some steroids have short "shlef lives" in your system and I understand there are some that as of yet are not detectable. Pretty interesting read though.
If ihad to guess the # 1 positions PRONE to abuse I would guess LB's, D-line,O-line and RB's.
I wouldnt "think" that DB's, Wr's and Qb's would find "as much" benefit form the juice as soem of the others due to the importance of muscle size in those positions.
 
I hope you got the idea for this thread before finding these pictures, and not while looking at these pictures.
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Yeah, i did, I looked for pics of bodybuilders after I wrote my 2 cents worth. LOL

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Good thread. I think that every team has it's "juicer's". As for positions, I wouldn't be suprised to see a few wr's on that list as well. There are some steroids that have less of a tendency to pack on the weight, and could be used to lower bodyfat, while adding strength. (I would more likely suspect them to do speed, though.)We also have to take into account that pro football teams have doctors, trainers,top-of-the line exercise equipment, and probably even nuritionists to ensure they get maximal gains in their training.These are things that have advanced over the years, so I wouldn't point to their physical improvements as totally a result of drugs.
 
I think David Boston was using steroids at one time. Look at him 260 lbs of pure muscle!!
 
David Boston Uses steroids, his trainer has trained many ifbb bodybuilders. I know about steroids my self so if anyone wants to ask I'll answer your questions.


Many people use steroids in every team, you can say most starters use steroids. Can anyone find the time frame of how often players are tested?
 
Originally posted by juniorseau55
David Boston Uses steroids, his trainer has trained many ifbb bodybuilders. I know about steroids my self so if anyone wants to ask I'll answer your questions.


Many people use steroids in every team, you can say most starters use steroids. Can anyone find the time frame of how often players are tested?
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I'd bet that teams get a "head's up" before getting tested.
 
The teams know who juice or not, they are regularly tested for blood levels to make sure they are doing fine. One's health is at risk if they don't take care of themselves while on steroids. Has anyone seen how good romo takes care of himself and shannon sharpe? Now you know why guys hehe.


Sadly, the media exxagerates the use of steroids without knowing. They portray steroids as the ultimate and most evil chemical. They have banned ephedra now as well. Ephedra has shown to be a useful supplement when taken with care but some athletes aren't taking care of themselves and they end up in the cementery.
 
Zack Thomas uses steroids likely, Ricky Williams uses steroids, Junior Seau has to use steroids etc. There is likely a possability that players like this have cycled at least once. Ricky came into our team very lean during the offseason for example. His bodyfat has gone low in 2 months, a sign that he used a such half life steroid as stanozolol and test propiate.
 
Originally posted by Scrappy
I'd bet that teams get a "head's up" before getting tested.
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Its a must...... some steroids aren't detected. They mostly detect roids by their hair. its the best way to tell if you been juicing.
 
I think that in moderation, and under a doctor's supervision, it can be relatively safe. Keyword: relatively
 
Originally posted by juniorseau55



Its a must...... some steroids aren't detected. They mostly detect roids by their hair. its the best way to tell if you been juicing.
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It stays in the hair for quite a while.
 
Originally posted by Scrappy
I think that in moderation, and under a doctor's supervision, it can be relatively safe. Keyword: relatively
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but not for a prolonged period of time: Lyle Alzado
 
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