Originally posted by knoxpk
the topic has gone down the tubes.
Let eme say this: I DO beleive that more than 10% of football players have cycled. I dont know about 90% BUT if you read Lyle Alzados tribute page he mentions that 90% of the ATHLETES HE KNEW were juicing. Its fair to say that he knew his wjole team isnt it?
Its also fair to say that he probably knew several players from OTHER teams right?
Now dont get me wrong I still think 90% is to high but I think 10% is way too low!
Remember there are roids that arer in and out in 48 hours. The chance of catching someone is slim. Not to mention since football is what 3 months? You can start a cycle TODAY and do them for 9 months(way too much but you get the point) bulk up to 10 or 15 lbs over your playing weight, and by careful diet and training you can hold most of that till the season ends.
If I were to GUESS(no flames please) I would say about 50% have cycled at least ONCE in their life and perhaps 30% currently use.
Thats my GUESS!:D
My friend just like the rest of the fans, the fans are oblivious. Go to a gym and stay there for a month you'll be seeing familiar faces change. You don't understand the life of a professional athlete, they need to be in the best shape that they can throughout their season. They devote their life since they were children to the sport and once they find out their opponents have an advantage they resort to the use of anabolic steroids.
Imagine training and recouperating your body at fast rates. That is the reason why we have supplements to aid our bodies with recovery and muscle tissue breakdown.
As far as roids being out of the system in 48 hours, those aren't steroids. They are likely anti-estrogens. When a steroid user finishes a cycle, his testosterone levels decrease and his estrogen levels increase, thus increasing the chances of the athlete having female like charectericstics (gyno, voice, etc). We are talking about the male body since our main hormone in charge of male characteristics is testosterone. They follow up to take an estrogen that increases testosterone levels to bring natural levels of testosterone and to block estrogen from its receptors. Look for info on arimidix, nolva, clomid, proviron.
Androgens are used to bulk up and to make strength gains. Such as testosterone itself which comes in 3 forms: Test enanthates, Test cypionate, Test suspension and test propionate. All of these testosterones have the same ester structure. Depending on the characteristics that every steroid gives us, they are stacked for many reasons.
This Androgen breaks down in our body to produce lean muscle gains. We might find that the results of a certain androgens will give us pure lean muscle mass as opposed to water retention. A particular androgen might be really safe but it isn't as androgenic but gives your lean muscle hardness.
There are certain steroids that are clean enough because they can act as an androgens while aromitizing very low. By the way aromatization is when testosterone converts to estrogen.
Some steroid users stack up to 10 steroids in a cycle, these are people who have been using them for a while and the body is used to these chemicals responses so the chemicals adapt and doesn't become as potent. Dosages have to be increased, so they are basically abusing steroids. To be truthful, steroids aren't as dangerous as the media makes them out to be, but athletes aren't taking care of themselves or aren't consulting professionals. While the steroid does give distinct characteristics to our body, its intent is to increase the athletes performance which he will gain through vigorous activities and fast recovery rates.
Originally posted by knoxpk
seau is this typical of roid gains?
PS this is not an endorsement for roids btw!
My younger brother was always active in HS, captain of the wrestling team yada yada. His senior year he weighed about 145lbs. After 3 years of working out and natural growth(started as 125lbs sophmore). After he graduated the biggest I ever saw him was about 155-160lbs. at 5'7" or so. Not lean but not fat.
One day one of the guys he knew at the gym talked him into a cycle(which ended up being 2 or 3 cycles). He got up to about 215lbs 30" waist bench over 400lbs, squat 500lbs, leg press around 1000lbs!!!!!!
He hurt his back right before he was going to do a show(his 1st and only) did not really push weights the last monht and a half and weighed in at about 170lbs Rock solid and ripped @5'7" tall!
Now I know he went down to very mild roids about 3 months out and some other things to help remove water but do you see 40-50lb weight increases in folks without changing pants sizes in a year?
Any such increases in lean mass are due to either steroids of precursors such as pro hormones, but to get at that point it takes hard work. You just don't inject and expect size, size comes in the gym and fast when you train like a dog.
In a year a 50 pound increase is average now a days while on anabolics. Lets say you cycle for 3 months and gain 20 lbs and you keep them. If your post cycle is succesful then you will likely keep most of those pounds. Keep taking breaks and you can easily gain 60 lbs in a year. Proper care while on steroids will make the use safe however, prolong use of steroids without the proper care is fatal.
