Tannehill and Sanchez, too little experience?

[testtubetimmy]

I find it funny how the NYJ can trade a bunch of players and picks to move up to number 5 to get Mark Sanchez, a guy with only 16 starts and the whole world applauds them on draft day. We stay put at number 8, get a solid QB with 19 starts and whose head coach is our OC and is familiar with our system and we're looked at as being desperate.

Now you'll say "16 starts for USC is way more difficult than 19 with Texas A&M" and with that, I challenge you to name a starting franchise QB that came from USC. Carson Palmer? Matt Cassel? My assel. USC is a powderpuff program that is all glitz and no guts.

The bottom line comes down to perception. The Jets made a great move because people wanted to say it was a great move. The dolphins are desperate because that's the narrative that's been created for us (and by us) for the last decade.

Only our wins and losses columns for the next few years will truly determine the value of this pick. Until then, haters gonna hate. But if Tanny's greatest knock is his experience in number of starts, I would simply point to Sanchez and ask "Then why the hell was that such a great pick?"

 

[NY8123]

Why would you start a thread comparing Tannehill to Sanchez?? Have we not learned our lesson with Henne/Sanchez?

 

[Vaark]

Beyond that our guy who mentored and helped develop Brett Favre and whose offense set modern GB records, actually wanted Tanny NOW as compared to Sanchez's former pro HC who declared him not ready for the pros.

Supporting Cast: Sanchez had 7 "classmates" selected in the 09 draft, including 4 in the first 56. This season, I believe, the next Aggie taken after T-Hill was Bullock in the 5th who was a ****ing kicker and overall by my fast count there were a total of 3 "classmates" taken. Beyond that Ryan had something like 65 certifiable drops on him by his receivers.

So you're right: anyone who criticizes the Tannehill selection damn well better be consistent criticizing Sanchez as at the least an equal "reach" considering number of games each started, number of passes attempted, what their respective coaches thought of their readiness and their relative supporting cast of characters.

Now given all of that, I've been saying Sanchez was a reach at 5 as the second QB taken before Josh Freeman, so I will concede that my feet are vulnerable to be held to the fire for taking T-Hill @8 as the third QB taken after essentially 1A and 1B at 1&2.

 

[rent this space]

Beyond that our guy who mentored and helped develop Brett Favre and whose offense set modern GB records, actually wanted Tanny NOW as compared to Sanchez's former pro HC who declared him not ready for the pros.

Supporting Cast: Sanchez had 7 "classmates" selected in the 09 draft, including 4 in the first 56. This season, I believe, the next Aggie taken after T-Hill was Bullock in the 5th who was a ****ing kicker and overall by my fast count there were a total of 3 "classmates" taken. Beyond that Ryan had something like 65 certifiable drops on him by his receivers.

So you're right: anyone who criticizes the Tannehill selection damn well better be consistent criticizing Sanchez as at the least an equal "reach" considering number of games each started, number of passes attempted, what their respective coaches thought of their readiness and their relative supporting cast of characters.

Now given all of that, I've been saying Sanchez was a reach at 5 as the second QB taken before Josh Freeman, so I will concede that my feet are vulnerable to be held to the fire for taking T-Hill @8 as the third QB taken after essentially 1A and 1B at 1&2.

I read the Dolphins actually counted 79

 

[MD]

In hindsight, Sanchez wasn't worth a fifth. Jets fans will tell you what a steal he was but when it comes down to it, he is not performing like a QB selected with the fifth pick should.

As for the media, who cares what they say. No one knows how Tannehill will work out but at least we have the possibility of having an elite QB and the Jets with Sanchez don't.

 

[nyjunc]

Beyond that our guy who mentored and helped develop Brett Favre and whose offense set modern GB records, actually wanted Tanny NOW as compared to Sanchez's former pro HC who declared him not ready for the pros.

Supporting Cast: Sanchez had 7 "classmates" selected in the 09 draft, including 4 in the first 56. This season, I believe, the next Aggie taken after T-Hill was Bullock in the 5th who was a ****ing kicker and overall by my fast count there were a total of 3 "classmates" taken. Beyond that Ryan had something like 65 certifiable drops on him by his receivers.

So you're right: anyone who criticizes the Tannehill selection damn well better be consistent criticizing Sanchez as at the least an equal "reach" considering number of games each started, number of passes attempted, what their respective coaches thought of their readiness and their relative supporting cast of characters.

Now given all of that, I've been saying Sanchez was a reach at 5 as the second QB taken before Josh Freeman, so I will concede that my feet are vulnerable to be held to the fire for taking T-Hill @8 as the third QB taken after essentially 1A and 1B at 1&2.

I love how you always talk about spin. Mike Sherman helped develop Brett favre? He didn't go to Gb until after Favre had won a SB and was already league MVP.

Favre was 7-3 as postseason starter until Sherman joined GB, w/ Sherman as OC/HC he was 4-6. Post Sherman? 2-2


but Mike Sherman helped develop Favre:lol2::lol2:

Sanchez was so unready for the NFL he helped his team to 2 title games in his first 2 seasons.

 

[truckstick23]

Sanchez didn't help his team to two championship games, they made it there in spite of him. Just imagine would might have been if you doidn't have a dog turd under center.

 

[mrbunglez]

And this is the reason why I think Barkley won't be anything special either and actually believed Tannehill is a better prospect. USC churns out garbage QBs.

 

[Ben Had]

I love how you always talk about spin. Mike Sherman helped develop Brett favre? He didn't go to Gb until after Favre had won a SB and was already league MVP.

Favre was 7-3 as postseason starter until Sherman joined GB, w/ Sherman as OC/HC he was 4-6. Post Sherman? 2-2


but Mike Sherman helped develop Favre:lol2::lol2:

Sanchez was so unready for the NFL he helped his team to 2 title games in his first 2 seasons.

And now your unready Sanchez is going to get beat our by Tebow! LOL

 

[nyjunc]

Sanchez didn't help his team to two championship games, they made it there in spite of him. Just imagine would might have been if you doidn't have a dog turd under center.

Yep, the history of the league is littered w/ awful QBs carried by the talent around them. The best D's in history still need quality QB play to win and the Jets D's were very good not great.

And now your unready Sanchez is going to get beat our by Tebow! LOL

That's not happening but hopefully Tim does help the team.

 

[Vaark]

I love how you always talk about spin. Mike Sherman helped develop Brett favre? He didn't go to Gb until after Favre had won a SB and was already league MVP.

Favre was 7-3 as postseason starter until Sherman joined GB, w/ Sherman as OC/HC he was 4-6. Post Sherman? 2-2


but Mike Sherman helped develop Favre:lol2::lol2:

Sanchez was so unready for the NFL he helped his team to 2 title games in his first 2 seasons.

yeah Sanchez helped his team to a title game by going 12-23, with an abysmal QBR and an interception and then keeping his fingers crossed that the opposing team coached by one of the league's biggest choke artists' kicker would uncharacteristically miss 3 very makeable FGs. Oh and Sanchez helped his team even get into the playoffs by not complaining how egregious 2 teams taking knees to gift them in after losing a game to ATL at home they needed to win for legit contention and soon after a 6 out of 7 losing season. Yeah, sitting on the bench, moping was a big help. LMAO.

Only in spinland does "crapping the bed" = "helping his team"

Oh and the considered judgments of Sherman and Pete Carroll >> Schotty, Rex and The Beancounter upstairs. :up:

 

[LikeUntoGod]

USC might not turn out many "franchise" QBs but they do have more ex QBs who played in the NFL then any other school. On the other hand the Big 12 is known for QB bust.

I'm not saying that I like Sanchez or do not like Tannehill but you have to look at things honestly.

 

[nyjunc]

yeah Sanchez helped his team to a title game by going 12-23, with an abysmal QBR and an interception and then keeping his fingers crossed that the opposing team coached by one of the league's biggest choke artists' kicker would uncharacteristically miss 3 very makeable FGs. Oh and Sanchez helped his team even get into the playoffs by not complaining how egregious 2 teams taking knees to gift them in after losing a game to ATL at home they needed to win for legit contention and soon after a 6 out of 7 losing season. Yeah, sitting on the bench, moping was a big help. LMAO.

Only in spinland does "crapping the bed" = "helping his team"

Oh and the considered judgments of Sherman and Pete Carroll >> Schotty, Rex and The Beancounter upstairs. :up:

In 6 playoff games Sanchez has 9 TDs and 3 INTs, he led a GW drive on the road at Indy, he outdueled Tom Brady by throwing 3 TDs in the div rd, he was near flawless at Cincy.


So tell me again how Mike Sherman deserves credit for Brett favre's success?

Sherman & Carroll: 12 seasons as HCs, 4-7 playoff record- all 4 wins were WC rd wins
Rex in 3 seasons: 4-2 playoff record, 2 title game apps

 

[Vaark]

USC might not turn out many "franchise" QBs but they do have more ex QBs who played in the NFL then any other school. On the other hand the Big 12 is known for QB bust.

I'm not saying that I like Sanchez or do not like Tannehill but you have to look at things honestly.

Honestly also includes perspective that the prior 2 starters to thrive and then come out of that exact system were Matt Leinert and John David Booty (whom Sanchez couldn't unseat). :idk:

 

[Wildbill3]

goddamnit op, why the **** do you and other people continue to insist on bringing up sanchez in ever ****ing other post! first any day without sanchez is a day without thinking about chocolate chip cookies and/or reach arounds. seriously you like trolls or something? if you wanna talk to nyjunc just send the man a pm or something.