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Tannehill and Wallace

Some of you are too funny. If a player has possession of the ball then fumbles it then it is his fault and his fault only.

Yes thats true but not if you get a ball thrown to your opposite shoulder making the catch not secure and let alone he got hit after two steps (let alone by a an LB) so he couldn't pull it in to secure it, Why??? cause it was a bad throw. if it hits him in the numbers or was thrown in front of him chances are he doesn't lose the ball period end of story.

So you my friend are too funny with this comment.
 
The pass to the endzone could have been better, but good receivers make that play 99% of the time. Wallace looked awkward trying to get his feet down almost like he couldnt keep his balance. If he catches the ball (as he did) and just keeps his feet no one is talking about the throw needing to be more inside and less to the sideline. Everyone is probably pumped that they hooked up deep.

When Dion Sims drops the sure touchdown pass on arguably the nicest throw of the day from either side, Tannehill doesn't get the credit (in the stat column) for the nice pass, its just incomplete. Seems like its always a one sided argument.
 
Yes thats true but not if you get a ball thrown to your opposite shoulder making the catch not secure and let alone he got hit after two steps (let alone by a an LB) so he couldn't pull it in to secure it, Why??? cause it was a bad throw. if it hits him in the numbers or was thrown in front of him chances are he doesn't lose the ball period end of story.

So you my friend are too funny with this comment.

Lets be serious here... Was it a bad pass? Yes! Should Wallace have held on to the ball after catching it and gaining control of it? Absolutely. Wallace caught the ball, turned around, took a couple steps or so, got hit then fumbled. It really doesn't matter where the ball was placed or what Wallace had to do after the catch, he had the ball and he should have held on to it "period end of story". I can't and won't disagree that it was a bad pass and if Wallace dropped it we'd have a different discussion here but to say the pass caused the fumble is quite ridiculous IMO.
 
We got the win, Go Dolphins!!!! We looked good, especially second half. Tannehill and Wallace did look better but, they still are not in sync. Wallaces' fumble was partly on Tannehill for throwing the ball behind Wallace. I was watching the game at Buffalo Wild Wings and when the fumble happened, me and the guy next to me both said, that's Tannehill's fault, almost in sync. Balls were high and behind WRs. When Wallace couldn't get his feet down, the ball was thrown too far to the sideline, he didn't have to put it that wide. Wallace still shoulda got his feet down and still should not have fumbled but, Tannehill can throw a better ball. The int was just ugly. On the bright side, Wallace did score a TD, had some big catches, looked tough and Tannehill led some impressive drives. Thoughts?
Tannehill has to learn how to be consistent - performances still can be like the up-and-down young qb. I was afraid he'd be a headcase after playing behind porous olines the past 2 years, but Lazor is helping his progression for sure / the ball is out a second quicker than last year, protection is better, and our WRs have more effective routes. The more trust, and time to throw, he gains with his oline, the greater his accuracy/technique will improve.
 
Both are more on Wallace, especially the step out in the end zone. He has terrible awareness of the sideline. This is not the first time that he has stepped out on a pass that was easily catchable in the field of play. Honestly, he has the worst body control and ball awareness of any WR I have seen in a long time. The deflection at the goal line by Revis is another example. He had no idea where the ball was. How are his eyes not tracking the ball? Finally, the INT was Tannehill's fault but did you see Wallace running is circles at the end of the play? Once again, he cannot locate the football.

At this point, I don't think the chemistry between him and Tannehill is going to improve. Time to begin the search for a new #1 WR for next year.

I agree, its doubtful they ever get in sync. I was really hoping for Cordarrelle Patterson last year but our stinkin GM blew it again. Tannehill at #8 wasnt good either but many predicted that as well. If we can get Wallace some catches and keep him as a threat, we can open more lanes for Knowshon and underneath passes for Gibson and Landry.
 
The length people go to to discredit Tannehill is too funny.

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I think that's a poor way to look at it. I dont know why we have to insult people with different opinions. As a RT supporter, I put some of the blame on him as well for that fumble. Yes Wallace should have secured it but he had to turn his body around to account for the pass being behind him. To me that was the cause. Doesnt mean I suddenly am searching for ways to discredit RT.
 
I think they will get it in sync. And here is my edgy opinion:

The blame for Tannehill/Wallace being on different pages falls on the coaching staff. Joe Philbin came out and said that they practice deep balls only 4-5 times per week. And that that was Joe's call.

They need to practice it 4-5 times per day.
 
Both are more on Wallace, especially the step out in the end zone. He has terrible awareness of the sideline. This is not the first time that he has stepped out on a pass that was easily catchable in the field of play. Honestly, he has the worst body control and ball awareness of any WR I have seen in a long time. The deflection at the goal line by Revis is another example. He had no idea where the ball was. How are his eyes not tracking the ball? Finally, the INT was Tannehill's fault but did you see Wallace running is circles at the end of the play? Once again, he cannot locate the football.

At this point, I don't think the chemistry between him and Tannehill is going to improve. Time to begin the search for a new #1 WR for next year.

Both were Wallace's fault. If you catch the ball and then fumble after making a football move it has to be on you. The deep pass I thought was great, that window is small so no matter how you get it there the receiver has to find a way to keep those feet in. You got me at the part where you said it wouldn't improve and we needed to search for another number 1 receiver though. What makes you think it's on Wallace, Tanne had some terrible throws yesterday. They both need to improve for the better of this team.
 
And what of the great qbs?

Yeah it looked as if everyone was out of sync a little. New offense, extremely tough matchup for a first game (with a very good D), and a little first game jitters. This offense is a lot of timing based throws so they will get better and better as the season goes on.

Tannehill also put a perfectly thrown ball on dion sims and he dropped a td. Also, wallace needs to have more awareness on that other deep ball (yes it was a little outside) but the great wr keep their feet in or at least try Wallace didn't even try to stick his feet down, just bad awareness their but played a hell of a game otherwise.

This offense is going to be deadly once they start clicking and what a huge confidence booster to knock off NE first game!!

Go Fins!!!
 
Everyone is right when you say great or good wrs make that play and keep their feet in bounds. What about the great or good QB? What does he do with the throw, you know, his part. Wallace "should" hold onto the ball, yes. Thill "should've" thrown a better ball. He can help out his WRs and put the ball where the WR doesn't have to reach back, making the time he can see a defender a lot less. The missed TD was a bad throw. There was no reason for the ball to be that wide. None!!! There was room towards the back of the endzone, he could've put it in bounds. And yes, Wallace could've gotten his feet down but, Thill could've helped him out and made the play easier. He didn't. Again, what do great QBs do?
 
The window wasn't as small as you think. The window was actually wide open. Thill didn't have to put that ball out of bounds. Do yo think a great QB would make a better throw? And I'm not understanding how you can't see the way Thill could've helped "HIS" WR out by making a better throw.

Both were Wallace's fault. If you catch the ball and then fumble after making a football move it has to be on you. The deep pass I thought was great, that window is small so no matter how you get it there the receiver has to find a way to keep those feet in. You got me at the part where you said it wouldn't improve and we needed to search for another number 1 receiver though. What makes you think it's on Wallace, Tanne had some terrible throws yesterday. They both need to improve for the better of this team.
 
This being said. I'm not trying to place to much blame. We won. But, I've been reading this page and everyone is bashing Wallace when Thill could've made better throws. Wallace looked lost on that int in the endzone because Thill put the ball over the wrong shoulder. It seems you guys are holding Wallace to a standard that does nothing but, insulate Thill. Wallace can be bad this season and we can still win. Thill can't be bad..... Period and he is the leader. If a fumble happens after a pass that was thrown behind a WR, I want the leader of my team stepping up and owning it.
 
Everyone is right when you say great or good wrs make that play and keep their feet in bounds. What about the great or good QB? What does he do with the throw, you know, his part. Wallace "should" hold onto the ball, yes. Thill "should've" thrown a better ball. He can help out his WRs and put the ball where the WR doesn't have to reach back, making the time he can see a defender a lot less. The missed TD was a bad throw. There was no reason for the ball to be that wide. None!!! There was room towards the back of the endzone, he could've put it in bounds. And yes, Wallace could've gotten his feet down but, Thill could've helped him out and made the play easier. He didn't. Again, what do great QBs do?

I dont put much blame on RT for the long TD where Wallace didnt get his feet in. That ball looked perfect to me. Wallace caught it in bounds, but didnt seem to realize how close he was to the sideline.
 
Yes thats true but not if you get a ball thrown to your opposite shoulder making the catch not secure and let alone he got hit after two steps (let alone by a an LB) so he couldn't pull it in to secure it, Why??? cause it was a bad throw. if it hits him in the numbers or was thrown in front of him chances are he doesn't lose the ball period end of story.

So you my friend are too funny with this comment.[/QUOTE shhhhh. your showing that your football IQ is not very good.
 
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